{"id":36477,"date":"2017-01-07T23:52:24","date_gmt":"2017-01-07T21:52:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tautastribunals.eu\/?p=36477"},"modified":"2017-01-08T10:38:21","modified_gmt":"2017-01-08T08:38:21","slug":"a-draguna-g-dislers-a-lapsans-d-morica-j-kaza-e-veidemane-b-saberte-g-belskis-v-birze","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tautastribunals.eu\/?p=36477","title":{"rendered":"O. Ozols, A. Drag\u016bna. G. Di\u0161lers, A. Lap\u0161\u0101ns, D. Morica, J. Ka\u017ea, E. Veidemane, B. \u0160\u0101berte, G. Be\u013cskis. V. Birze…"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"Liec\u012bbas.LRTT.H-86.LatvijaSaeimaGranti\u0146\u0161BitenieksBarissUrbanovi\u010dsKozlovskis.1\"<\/a>K\u0101p\u0113c es raksta nosaukum\u0101 min\u0113ju tikai v\u0101rdus ? <\/span><\/p>\n

Lai tie ieietu GOOGLE<\/strong>s \u0137\u0113r\u0101j\u0101 un vienm\u0113r b\u016btu pieejami las\u012bt\u0101jiem. Es esmu \u013coti \u201catcer\u012bgs\u201d,<\/strong> kas attiecas nodev\u012bbu, bet \u013coti \u201caizmirst\u012bgs\u201d,<\/strong> kas attiecas uz labo darbu veic\u0113jiem, jo uzskatu, ka tas ir katra god\u012bga cilv\u0113ka pien\u0101kums- B\u016aT GOD\u012aGAM<\/strong> un t\u0101p\u0113c nav piemin\u0113\u0161anas v\u0113rts. Bet \u0161os nelie\u0161us, kurus variet izlas\u012bt nosl\u0113gum\u0101, netaisos \u017e\u0113lot, iz\u0146emot divus<\/strong><\/span>,<\/span> kuri ir nosod\u012bju\u0161i so “sise\u0146u”<\/strong> baru.
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Vis\u0101m asins izlie\u0161an\u0101m pamat\u0101 ir meli.<\/span><\/h2>\n

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Tas, kur\u0161 melo, ir slepkava sav\u0101 dzi\u013c\u0101kaj\u0101 b\u016bt\u012bb\u0101<\/strong>. Ne velti jau J\u0113zus <\/strong>uz \u017e\u012bdiem sac\u012bja:<\/span><\/p>\n

J\u016bs esat no sava t\u0113va- velna, un jums gribas pild\u012bt sava t\u0113va k\u0101r\u012bbas. Vi\u0146\u0161 no pa\u0161a s\u0101kuma ir bijis slepkava un nest\u0101v paties\u012bb\u0101, jo paties\u012bbas nav vi\u0146\u0101. Melus run\u0101dams, vi\u0146\u0161 run\u0101 p\u0113c savas dabas, jo vi\u0146\u0161 ir melis un melu t\u0113vs !<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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\"Eva-Martu\u017ea\"<\/a>T\u0101tad m\u0113s saprotam, kas ir “t\u0113vs”<\/strong> visiem \u0161iem koment\u0113t\u0101jiem… .<\/span><\/p>\n

Rakstniece Eva Martu\u017ea Facebook<\/strong>(feisbuk\u0101)<\/em> bija ievietojusi k\u0101du dokumenta izgriezumu, kas pirms vair\u0101kiem gadiem public\u0113ts tautastribunals.eu i- vietn\u0113:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Vai J. Ro\u017ekalns bija disidents<\/a><\/strong>(las\u012bt)<\/span><\/span><\/a><\/em> <\/span>?<\/a>
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Dokuments nor\u0101d\u012bja, ka \u201cm\u016bsu\u201d <\/strong>di\u017eais disidents, kur\u0161 vis\u0101s iesp\u0113jam\u0101s viet\u0101s un inform\u0101cijas l\u012bdzek\u013cos apgalvo, ka vi\u0146\u0161\u00a0 ir ticis izraid\u012bts,\u00a0 \u012bsten\u012bb\u0101 c\u012bn\u012bj\u0101s par izbrauk\u0161anu no savas dzimtenes.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Lai tas viss b\u016btu saprotam\u0101k, tad pateik\u0161u, k\u0101 es tiku \u201cizraid\u012bts\u201d, <\/strong>lai katram rastos kaut mazs priek\u0161tats par to. <\/span><\/p>\n

P\u0113c Gorba\u010dova<\/strong> s\u0101kt\u0101s perestroikas mani<\/strong> un Bitenieku<\/strong> 1986.decembr\u012b amnest\u0113ja tie\u0161i no \u010dekas pagrabiem, kuros atrad\u0101mies par H- 86 <\/strong>dibin\u0101\u0161anu. 1987.g. 4. mart\u0101<\/strong><\/span> mums bija j\u0101ierodas prokurat\u016br\u0101 R\u012bg\u0101 <\/strong>pie prokurora Bataraga.<\/strong> Mums tika pied\u0101v\u0101ta iesp\u0113ja izce\u013cot no PSRS.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

<\/strong>-M\u0113s atteic\u0101mies to dar\u012bt ! <\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

1987. g. 15. j\u016bnij\u0101<\/strong><\/span> pie manis Liep\u0101jas \u010dekas pagrab\u0101,<\/strong> kur\u0101 biju iemests par 14. j\u016bnija<\/strong> demonstr\u0101cijas organiz\u0113\u0161aanu,(\u0161ajos pagrabos 1941. g. kriev\u017e\u012bdu \u010dekisti no\u0161\u0101va vair\u0101kus desmitus Liep\u0101jas pilso\u0146us- Latvijas patriotus) <\/em>ierad\u0101s laikraksta \u201cPadomju Jaunatne\u201d<\/strong> \u017eurn\u0101lists Juris Blaumanis<\/strong>. <\/span><\/p>\n

Vi\u0146\u0161 bija \u012bsts psihop\u0101ts. <\/span><\/h2>\n

K\u0101du pus stundu izb\u013caust\u012bj\u0101s, nosauca mani par bur\u017eu\u0101zisko nacion\u0101listu un piepras\u012bja, lai es v\u0101coties prom no Padomju Latvijas<\/strong>, jo neviens mani necienot. Tas bija gar\u0161 un ar pamat\u012bgiem <\/span><\/strong>v\u0101rdiem pies\u0101r\u0146ots monologs. <\/span><\/p>\n

-Ar\u012b vi\u0146am es pateicu, ka netaisos braukt prom no savas dzimtenes. <\/span><\/h2>\n

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FOTO: Bet skaties un br\u012bnies, kas par \u0161o \u010dekas dra\u0146\u0137i ir rakst\u012bts \u010dekista- latvie\u0161u tautas slepkavas<\/span><\/em> A. Borovkova<\/span> <\/strong>p\u0101rvald\u012btaj\u0101 NEKROPOLE<\/strong>:<\/em><\/span> https:\/\/nekropole.info\/lv\/Juris-Blaumanis<\/a><\/p>\n

Tad sekoja safabric\u0113ta tiesa un tiku noties\u0101ts par nepak\u013cau\u0161anos karaklaus\u012bbai. Sekoja 6 m\u0113ne\u0161i \u0160kirotavas nometn\u0113<\/strong> starp krievu nacistiem. P\u0113d\u0113jos divus m\u0113ne\u0161us, p\u0113c 30 ASV<\/strong> senatoru spiediena, tiku ievietots cietuma slimn\u012bc\u0101 ar lauzt\u0101m rib\u0101m, lauztu kr\u016b\u0161kurvja kaulu un pusi no sava norm\u0101l\u0101 svara. Tur tad man ar\u012b \u010dekisti pazi\u0146oja, ka par manu dz\u012bv\u012bbu vi\u0146i neatbild. Varot lemt- palikt vai piekrist izce\u013co\u0161anai. <\/span><\/p>\n

-\u0160oreiz tad ar\u012b piekritu. <\/span><\/h2>\n

Dokumentus vi\u0146i nok\u0101rtoja un ce\u013ca izdevumus atmaks\u0101ja.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Jums- visiem tiem, kuri uz mani <\/strong>un E.<\/strong> Martu\u017eu<\/strong> l\u0113j\u0101t samazgas, dota iesp\u0113ja sal\u012bdzin\u0101t m\u016bsu \u201cizraid\u012b\u0161anu\u201d. <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Un tagad es gribu pajaut\u0101t visiem kv\u0113lajiem \u201cdisidenta\u201d J\u0101\u0146a Ro\u017ekalna <\/strong>aizst\u0101vjiem un manis, k\u0101 me\u013ca, nor\u0113j\u0113jiem: Par\u0101diet man l\u016bdzu kaut vienu dokumentu, kur\u0101 tiek nosod\u012bti komunistu noziegumi pret latvie\u0161u tautu un pras\u012bta Latvijas<\/strong> br\u012bv\u012bba, zem kura b\u016btu J\u0101\u0146a Ro\u017ekalna paraksts <\/span><\/strong><\/span>?<\/span><\/p>\n

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Variet net\u0113r\u0113t laiku un necensties t\u0101dus atrast, jo t\u0101du nav<\/span> !<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Es vi\u0146am pied\u0101v\u0101ju, bet vi\u0146\u0161 kategoriski atsac\u012bj\u0101s.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Es vi\u0146am, m\u016bsu grupas H-86 \u013coti kritisk\u0101<\/strong> past\u0101v\u0113\u0161anas br\u012bd\u012b pied\u0101v\u0101ju iest\u0101ties taj\u0101, vi\u0146\u0161 kategoriski atsac\u012bj\u0101s, piebilstot: \u201cTas man var trauc\u0113t izbrauk\u0161anai !\u201d <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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T\u0101 bija absurda un nelo\u0123iska atbilde. Dr\u012bz\u0101k jau tas b\u016btu var\u0113jis pa\u0101trin\u0101t izbrauk\u0161anu, bet lietas b\u016bt\u012bba sl\u0113p\u0101s taj\u0101, ka no \u010dekas tika dots stingrs nor\u0101d\u012bjums: nepopulariz\u0113t H- 86 grupu. <\/strong>Tauta jau toreiz nezin\u0101ja, kam vi\u0146\u0161 kalpo !?\u00a0 Vi\u0146a iest\u0101\u0161an\u0101s grup\u0101 b\u016btu tautas apzi\u0146u- garu v\u0113l vair\u0101k aktiviz\u0113jusi. <\/span><\/p>\n

Tas nedr\u012bkst\u0113ja notikt ! <\/span><\/h2>\n

Uzrodas jaut\u0101jums: Vai t\u0101ds var skait\u012bties disidents, kur\u0161 nav parakst\u012bjis nevienu dokumentu<\/span><\/span> ?<\/strong>
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T\u0101du pa\u0161u prettautisku propagandu izv\u0113rsa ar\u012b Juris Ziemelis<\/strong> un t\u0101p\u0113c es main\u012bju savu nodomu: nodot vi\u0146am(p\u0113c manas izce\u013co\u0161anas) <\/em> H- 86<\/strong> grupas vad\u012bbu.
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K\u0101 v\u0113l\u0101k izr\u0101d\u012bj\u0101s, Juris Ziemelis<\/strong> bija VDK<\/strong> dokumentos fiks\u0113ts k\u0101 vi\u0146u darbinieks. Tad ar\u012b s\u0101k\u0101s Ro\u017ekalna, Zieme\u013ca<\/strong> un \u201cBr\u012bv\u0101s Eiropas\u201d <\/strong>raid\u012bt\u0101ja P\u0101vila Br\u016bvera<\/strong> graujo\u0161\u0101 darb\u012bba pret H- 86 grupu, <\/strong>kas praktiski noz\u012bm\u0113ja c\u012b\u0146u pret latvie\u0161u tautas br\u012bv\u012bbu<\/strong><\/span><\/span>.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Tas bija \u0101rpr\u0101ta nodev\u012bbas akts pret m\u016bsu tautu un Atmodu<\/span>,<\/strong><\/span> kas turpin\u0101s v\u0113l \u0161odien !<\/span><\/p>\n

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Bet,- NEKAS NEPALIEK APSL\u0112PTS, KAS NETAPTU ZIN\u0100MS<\/strong> !<\/span><\/p>\n

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Turpin\u0101jums sekos.<\/span><\/p>\n

07.01.17\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 L. Granti\u0146\u0161
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Nosl\u0113gum\u0101 variet iepaz\u012bties ar koment\u0101riem, kurus es n\u0101ko\u0161aj\u0101 rakst\u0101 koment\u0113\u0161u:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Eva Martuza<\/a> Labpr\u0101t uzzin\u0101tu vair\u0101k, kas notika \u0161aj\u0101 gad\u0101 un k\u0101p\u0113c ir var\u0113jusi b\u016bt pie\u013cauta un varb\u016bt mazliet v\u0113l\u0101k notikusi \u0161\u0101da v\u0113lme (ne-ebrejiem) doties uz Rietumiem. K\u0101da bija politisk\u0101 motiv\u0101cija?<\/p>\n

Guntis Di\u0161lers<\/a> Ja nebija, tad ne vi\u0146\u0161 vien\u012bgais, kas 88-90 “tika izraid\u012bts”.<\/p>\n

Juris Ka\u017ea<\/a> Tas t.s. Tautas tribun\u0101ls, maigi izsakoties, “nelido ar pilnu apkalpi”. J\u0101nis Ro\u017ekalns tie\u0161\u0101m opon\u0113ja padomju okup\u0101cijai un totalit\u0101rai sist\u0113mai. P\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 laik\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161 aizst\u0101v da\u017e\u0101dus soci\u0101li ultrakonservat\u012bvus viedok\u013cus, ta\u010du vi\u0146am ir ties\u012bbas to dar\u012bt demokr\u0101tisk\u0101 Latvij\u0101, kas rad\u0101s pateicoties, cita starp\u0101, vi\u0146a upura (ieslodz\u012bjuma) d\u0113\u013c. V\u0113l viena d\u012bvain\u012bba dokument\u0101 ir, ka 1982.gada janv\u0101ri rakst\u012bts pap\u012brs min 82.gada novembr\u012b dzimu\u0161u b\u0113rnu :)<\/p>\n

Agita Draguna<\/a> pajaut\u0101 Aivars Lap\u0161\u0101ns<\/a>, ja v\u0113lies ko s\u012bk\u0101k par \u0161o ‘labpr\u0101t\u012bgo’ izbrauk\u0161anu uzzin\u0101t – vi\u0146\u0161 vienreiz man s\u0101ka st\u0101st\u012bt, bet nepiem\u0113rotos apst\u0101k\u013cos cilv\u0113ku bar\u0101, t\u0101 ar\u012b viss p\u0101rtr\u016bka pusv\u0101rd\u0101.. un diez vai L.Granti\u0146a port\u0101ls ir tas uzticam\u0101kais inform\u0101cija..<\/em><\/p>\n

Agita Draguna<\/a> tikko sazvan\u012bju Evu, parun\u0101j\u0101mies no sirds. gribas visus iesaist\u012btos nomierin\u0101t – izr\u0101d\u0101s, Eva mekl\u0113jusi k\u0101du s\u012bku spilgtu epizodi (par P\u0113terbazn\u012bcu) k\u0101dam jau gandr\u012bz pabeigtam v\u0113sturiskam rom\u0101nam (pamat\u0101 par 5. un 9.gs. Latvij\u0101), un t\u0101 visa sasaist\u012b\u0161anai ar m\u016bsdien\u0101m (aizbrauk\u0161anas t\u0113ma) vi\u0146ai \u0161\u0137itis intri\u0123\u0113jo\u0161s \u0161is nejau\u0161i uzgogl\u0113tais ieraksts. neesot vi\u0146ai bijusi pat doma visp\u0101r rakst\u012bt par \u0161iem konkr\u0113tajiem (vi\u0146ai nepaz\u012bstamajiem!) cilv\u0113kiem, kur nu v\u0113l ar vi\u0146u \u012bstajiem v\u0101rdiem, kur nu v\u0113l k\u0101du apmelojot.. j\u0101secina, ka Eva pati \u012bsti nefiltr\u0113, k\u0101 vi\u0146as uzrakst\u012bto var izlas\u012bt p\u0101r\u0113jie (bet \u0161\u0101da \u012bpa\u0161\u012bba nu Evai ir piemitusi jau agr\u0101k, vi\u0146as rakst\u012btajam nudien vajag redaktoru, kur\u0161 vi\u0146ai pa\u0161ai paskaidro, kas re\u0101li ticis uzrakst\u012bts, nevis tikai grib\u0113ts pateikt). savu spilgto anon\u012bmo aini\u0146u dabeidzamajam rom\u0101nam vi\u0146a epast\u0101 veiksm\u012bgi jau sa\u0146\u0113musi, tikt\u0101l apmierin\u0101ta, bet ar t\u0101m auz\u0101m, kur\u0101s nu nejau\u0161i iebraukusi, pati nezina, ko tagad ies\u0101kt :) katr\u0101 zi\u0146\u0101 sveicieni visiem no Evas, kura \u0161obr\u012bd k\u0101 reiz bija ce\u013c\u0101 uz laukiem un p\u0101ris dienas pie datora netik\u0161ot – laim\u012bgu jauno gadu visiem, un prieks, ka l\u012bdzsvaram p\u0113c Granti\u0146a apgalvojumiem izskan\u0113ju\u0161i ar\u012b tik daudz labu un aizst\u0101vo\u0161u v\u0101rdu, ka te noteikti b\u016btu pietiekams materi\u0101ls izcilam rom\u0101nam. lai pietiek mums visiem pr\u0101ta, sirdsgudr\u012bbas un Dieva miera p\u0101ri visam, lai pie t\u0101, nezaud\u0113jot cilv\u0113cisko cie\u0146u, godam str\u0101d\u0101tu Jaunaj\u0101 gad\u0101!<\/p>\n

Otto Ozols<\/a> Eva Martuza<\/a> – Juris Ka\u017ea<\/a> raksta pareiza, ka “tautastribunals” nelido “ar pilnu apkalpi.” Tas regul\u0101ri uzbr\u016bk ar\u012b man rakstot burtiski slima su\u0146u murgus. B\u016bt\u012bb\u0101, stingri \u0146emot J\u0101nis Ro\u017ekalns bija Latvijas br\u012bv\u012bbas c\u012bn\u012bt\u0101js, kur\u0161 re\u0101li tika tur\u0113ts \u010dekas pagrabos un p\u0113c tam garus gadus nometn\u0113. Par to mana visdzi\u013c\u0101k\u0101 cie\u0146a vi\u0146am. Toreiz tam vajadz\u0113ja milz\u012bgu drosmi un gara sp\u0113ku, pati zini. Lai ar\u012b mums daudzos jaut\u0101jumos ir uzskatu at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bbas pasaules redz\u0113jum\u0101, tom\u0113r es vi\u0146u cienu t\u016bksto\u0161k\u0101rt vair\u0101k nek\u0101 tos daudzos pie varas eso\u0161os kompartijas funkcion\u0101rus “pav\u0113jamm\u012bz\u0113jus”.<\/p>\n

Andris Upenieks<\/a> Ar J\u0101ni Ro\u017ekalnu ce\u013c\u0161 saveda kop\u0101 pirms 10gadiem, kad biju v\u0113l skolas diretors un piestr\u0101d\u0101ju \u017eurn\u0101listik\u0101. Vienoja v\u0113rt\u012bbu izpratne un pilsoniskums. Goda v\u012brs. Manupr\u0101t, lai izteiktu nopietnas \u0161aubas par cilv\u0113ku, ar p\u0101rliec\u012bbu nepietiek, da\u017ek\u0101rt ar\u012b argumenti nel\u012bdz… Varu teikt tikai to, ko zinu – goda v\u012brs.<\/p>\n

Agita Draguna<\/a> zini, Eva, ar to Granti\u0146a ‘dokumentu’ kaut kas to\u010d nav k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101 – nepietiek ar to, ka t\u0101 sast\u0101d\u012b\u0161anas datums min\u0113ts v\u0113l pirms sarakst\u0101 ierakst\u012btu b\u0113rnu dzim\u0161anas gadiem (k\u0101 jau augst\u0101k koment\u0101ros tika paman\u012bts), bet visp\u0101r jau pats tas gads,<\/p>\n

.. Ingus Kuplais<\/a> Eva – tas tie\u0161\u0101m ir izp\u0113tes v\u0113rts darbs? T\u0101 viet\u0101, lai rad\u012btu ko jaunu, lai str\u0101d\u0101tu uz n\u0101kotni saviem b\u0113rniem, mazb\u0113rniem par prieku un dz\u012bvi, turpin\u0101sim rakties tais izskalotajos \u010dekas maisos un sauksim aizr\u012bdamies pie k\u0101\u0137a tos, kas sen jau sapuvu\u0161i, cerot, ka laim\u012bbas zeme atdzims tad, kad visi \u013caunie tiks atpaz\u012bti? Eva, Tev ne\u0161\u0137iet, ka \u0161\u0101da attieksme dzen latvie\u0161u kult\u016bru post\u0101?<\/p>\n

. Ingus Kuplais<\/a> ES saprotu V\u012bzent\u0101la centru – vi\u0146i no t\u0101 naudu iekas\u0113… Bet, ko tas dos, ka latvietis sava kaimi\u0146a vecvect\u0113vu atmaskos?<\/p>\n

Ingus Kuplais<\/a> Bail\u0113m nav acu, bail\u0113m ir plati atv\u0113rta mute – jo sen\u0101ki laioki, jo maz\u0101k liecinieku. Jo maz\u0101k liecinieku, jo vair\u0101k var muld\u0113t dajebko. K\u0101, piem\u0113ram, “p\u0113d\u0113jais le\u0123ion\u0101rs”, kur\u0161 itk\u0101 bijis izmucis no zviedru l\u0113\u0123era pirms atdo\u0161anas krieviem…. Okup\u0101cijas Muzejam ilgi dzied\u0101ja, kam\u0113r es, t\u012bri dom\u0101dams, interviju ar vi\u0146u uztais\u012bju. Meli uz meliem :) Mans t\u0113vs ir viens no L\u0101\u010dpl\u0113\u0161a orde\u0146a gr\u0101matas autoriem, l\u012bdz ar to ar\u012b es neesmu ar zin\u0101\u0161an\u0101m apdal\u012bts – ne tikai liter\u0101r\u0101, bet ar\u012b pavisam v\u0113sturisk\u0101 kontekst\u0101<\/p>\n

Ingus Kuplais<\/a> Ko tas dos, Tev, Evuc\u012bti, kad taisn\u012bba \u0101r\u0101 n\u0101ks? Vai zied\u0113s Tev \u0101bel\u012bte, vai t\u0101 r\u012bta miglu skars? Atbildes nav…..<\/p>\n

Ingus Kuplais<\/a> Talants Tev ir nenoliedzams – uzjund\u012bt vecas lietas, ko es cer\u0113ju jau aizmirsis – barik\u0101des, Salu tilts, Bastejkalns….<\/p>\n

Valdis Semjonovs<\/a> Ingus Kuplais<\/a> “Kur tu biji , kad uz Andri Slapi\u0146u \u0161\u0101va”…Sav\u0101c savu neliet\u012bgo m\u0113li ne\u0123\u0113li ! Vienm\u0113r ejot gar\u0101m vietai Bastejkaln\u0101 kur no\u0161\u0101va Andri un Gvido ,apst\u0101jos , atdodu godu. Slava Latvie\u0161u tauta varo\u0146iem !!!<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Juo\u0146s Strods<\/a> P\u0101rfr\u0101z\u0113jot Orvelu – tom\u0113r “biju\u0161ie” nez k\u0101p\u0113c uzskata, ka vi\u0146i ar saviem mantiniekiem ir vienl\u012bdz\u012bg\u0101ki par p\u0101r\u0113jiem…Te nav nek\u0101du nosl\u0113pumu – daudzi tom\u0113r zina, kas ir kas… Izskat\u0101s, ka bez k\u0101da sabiedrisk\u0101 izl\u012bguma nekas uz priek\u0161u neies, jo ir pietieko\u0161i daudz apbi\u017eoto, neapmierin\u0101to, sevi\u0161\u0137i jaunaj\u0101 paaudz\u0113, kuri tikai tagad p\u0113c t\u0113vu un vect\u0113vu nost\u0101stiem un citas inform\u0101cijas s\u0101k saprast, kas paties\u012bb\u0101 notika…<\/p>\n

Inga Spole<\/a> Absol\u016bts \u0161oks par autores jaut\u0101jumu! Esam notrulin\u0101ta sabiedr\u012bba (lasi – ar\u012b tauta), bez atmi\u0146as un apzi\u0146as. Lieno\u0161a, skait\u013cojo\u0161a, netic\u012bga, pieglaim\u012bga. J\u0101nis Ro\u017ekalns laikam ir p\u0113d\u0113jais latvietis – mohik\u0101nis, kur\u0161 v\u0113l mier\u012bgi apraksta un paskaidro, neminot ne v\u0101rda par cie\u0161an\u0101m. Eva M\u0101rtu\u017ea, vai nev\u0113lieties k\u0101du gadi\u0146u pab\u016bt ieslodz\u012bjum\u0101?<\/p>\n

Agita Draguna<\/a> Eva Martuza<\/a> , baidos, ka viens \u0161\u0101ds Tavs koment\u0101rs jau var\u0113tu b\u016bt p\u0101rsv\u012btrojis iesp\u0113ju uzrakst\u012bt LABU rom\u0101nu par \u0161o tik sare\u017e\u0123\u012bto v\u0113stures posmu – t\u0101 vienk\u0101r\u0161\u0101 iemesla d\u0113\u013c, ka tur paties\u012bba var izr\u0101d\u012bties ne tikai ar dubultu dibenu, bet varb\u016bt pat pieck\u0101r\u0161u vai septi\u0146k\u0101r\u0161u. kur\u0161 no iesaist\u012btajiem gan sp\u0113s vairs Tev atv\u0113rties, ja Tu jau pa\u0161\u0101 s\u0101kum\u0101 n\u0101c ar \u0161\u0101du gatavu redz\u0113jumu?? vai Tu pati sp\u0113tu uztic\u0113t savas dzi\u013c\u0101k\u0101s izj\u016btas (un, iesp\u0113jams, ar\u012b ilgi glab\u0101tus nosl\u0113pumus) k\u0101dam, kur\u0161 kaut vai piln\u012bg\u0101 p\u0101l\u012b kaut vai vienu vien\u012bgu reizi dz\u012bv\u0113 b\u016btu par Tevi pa\u0161u taml\u012bdz\u012bgi (turkl\u0101t publiski!) izteicies??.. \u013coti \u017e\u0113l, ka t\u0101 noticis, jo pati iecere par to, ka \u0161\u0101dam rom\u0101nam b\u016btu j\u0101top, ta\u010du ir \u013coti laba, tikai tur nu gan b\u016btu j\u0101prot dzi\u013ci rakt (gan faktos, gan cilv\u0113ku dv\u0113sel\u0113s, attiec\u012bb\u0101s, mot\u012bvos), jo lai nu kas, bet v\u0113l viena Barikadop\u0113dijas tipa falsifik\u0101cija par \u0161o t\u0113mu nu gan nav vajadz\u012bga nevienam. J\u0101ni Ro\u017ekalnu person\u012bgi nepaz\u012bstu (vienu reizi esam tiku\u0161ies publisk\u0101 pas\u0101kum\u0101), nevaru spriest, bet visi cilv\u0113ki, kuri vi\u0146u gadiem labi paz\u012bst, par vi\u0146u vienm\u0113r izteiku\u0161ies tikai ar visdzi\u013c\u0101ko cie\u0146u (pat tie, kuri vi\u0146a uzskatiem k\u0101d\u0101 konkr\u0113t\u0101 jaut\u0101jum\u0101 nepiekr\u012bt). vai nav t\u0101, ka tie\u0161i cie\u0146a pret sava rom\u0101na varo\u0146iem b\u016btu pats pirmais izejas punkts, lai visp\u0101r \u0161o ce\u013cu b\u016btu v\u0113rts iet?.. var nosod\u012bt k\u0101du konkr\u0113tu izv\u0113li (k\u0101du? to rom\u0101n\u0101 vajadz\u0113tu izz\u012bm\u0113t piln\u0101s kr\u0101s\u0101s un nians\u0113s), bet, neizz\u012bm\u0113jot, neatsedzot un necienot iesaist\u012bto cilv\u0113ku cie\u0161anas, tas diez vai visp\u0101r b\u016bs uzskat\u0101ms par rom\u0101nu.<\/p>\n

Valdis Semjonovs<\/a> Eva Martuza<\/a> Eva – ne\u0146em galv\u0101 ! Lab\u0101k izlasi Vikip\u0113dij\u0101 – Kas ir Latvie\u0161u tauta un no k\u0101 t\u0101 radusies.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Roko Vilks<\/a> Es visiem kriti\u0137iem varu piemin\u0113t v\u0113l vienu l\u012bdz\u012bgu st\u0101stu- nelai\u0137im \u0112valdam Valteram ar\u012b patika uzsv\u0113rt k\u0101ds bijis stre\u013c\u0137is varens. 70.tos bija viens saiets c\u012b\u0146u biedru, kur \u0161is pie galda s\u0101cis atkal savus kaujas st\u0101stus. Viens v\u012brs bez redzes klaus\u012bjies un blakus s\u0113d\u0113t\u0101jam jaut\u0101jis, kur\u0161 to visu st\u0101sta? Kad pateica \u0112valds vi\u0146\u0161 pasmaid\u012bjis un noteicis, kas tas ta\u010du bija m\u016bsu pulka pav\u0101rs. Valters uz vi\u0146u pie galda s\u0101cis b\u013caut nosaucot par aklo \u0137\u0113mu u.t.t. St\u0101sts sens no v\u012bra, kur\u0161 ar\u012b pie \u0161\u012b galda bija<\/p>\n

Baiba Bic\u0113na<\/a> Atceros vienu Labvakar raid\u012bjumu Atmodas gados, kad grupa ciemoj\u0101s Minster\u0113 un interv\u0113ja J\u0101ni Ro\u017ekalnu. T\u0101 bija pirm\u0101 reize, kad vi\u0146u redz\u0113ju bild\u0113. Pirms tam jau biju kaut ko las\u012bjusi Atmod\u0101 vai Neatkar\u012bb\u0101. Maz\u0101kais, V\u0101cij\u0101 dzimu\u0161ais b\u0113rns, toreiz v\u0113l s\u0113d\u0113ja rati\u0146os. J\u0101nis st\u0101st\u012bja ar\u012b par izbrauk\u0161anu ar “t\u0101 saucamo Izra\u0113las v\u012bzu”.<\/p>\n

Eva Martuza<\/a> Patiesi nesaprotu, k\u0101p\u0113c FB advok\u0101ti izv\u0113l\u0113j\u0101s vienu uzv\u0101rdu un met\u0101s to aizst\u0101v\u0113t. Bet p\u0101r\u0113jie taj\u0101 sarakst\u0101? B\u016btu st\u0101st\u012bju\u0161i kaut vai anekdotiskus starpgad\u012bjumus ar \u010deku, es ta\u010du skaidri pateicu, ka ne jau dokument\u0101lu izp\u0113ti veicu, bet rom\u0101nam izmantojamas deta\u013cas \u0161i dokumenta sakar\u0101. Tagad man jau paliek interesanti, saj\u016bta, ka esmu piesk\u0101rusies sv\u0113tajai govij vai skudru p\u016bzn\u012b nejau\u0161i iebraukusi.<\/p>\n

Agita Draguna<\/a> Eva<\/a>, Tu laikam neredzi sevi spogul\u012b – tie\u0161i Tu ta\u010du esi no\u0161\u0113rojusi\/ izplat\u012bjusil inku, kur\u0101 \u013coti smagi apvainojumi izteikti vienam konkr\u0113tam (man nepaz\u012bstamam) cilv\u0113kam – k\u0101 var p\u0113c tam br\u012bn\u012bties, ka da\u017ei vi\u0146u metas dedz\u012bgi aizst\u0101v\u0113t?<\/p>\n

Gunars Reinholds<\/a> J.Ro\u017ekalns krievu laik\u0101 bija c\u012bn\u012bt\u0101js pret iek\u0101rtu .Par vi\u0146u dzird\u0113j\u0101m ..Amerikas bals\u012b un cit\u0101s aizliegt\u0101s radiostacij\u0101s.Un tas ir skaidrs ka krieviem vajadz\u0113ja vi\u0146us izraid\u012bt.Protams da\u017ei pild\u012bja \u010dekas uzdevumus bet vai tas bija J.Ro\u017ekalns.Neticu Granti\u0146am kur\u0161 tautas v\u0101rd\u0101 izveidojis lapu.Taj\u0101 laik\u0101 ari daudzi latvie\u0161ii sare\u011fistr\u0113j\u0101s ar \u017e\u012bdiet\u0113m lai var\u0113tu tikt uz rietumiem.——– K\u0101p\u0113c J\u016bs \u0137\u0113r\u0101ties kl\u0101t J.Ro\u017ekalna \u011fimenei bet neinteresej\u0101ties par HELSINKI 86 cilv\u0113kiem kuri taj\u0101 laik\u0101 izbrauca un uz k\u0101diem noteikumiem?<\/p>\n

Ain\u0101rs Radovics<\/a> B\u016btu m\u016bsu disidentiem vair\u0101k inteli\u0123ences, t\u0101di nesmukumi neuzpeld\u0113tu. No\u017e\u0113lojami. Pat p\u0113c 30 gadiem nav pazudusi v\u0113lme vienam otru nomelnot. Un k\u0101ds tak par to sm\u012bn vai pat atkl\u0101ti \u0146irg\u0101jas, k\u0101 tas izr\u0101d\u012bj\u0101s ar \u0122ederta Melngai\u013ca “nepieskait\u0101m\u012bbu”!<\/p>\n

Gunars Reinholds<\/a> Ja J\u016bs neesat sp\u0113j\u012bga izprast tos laikus nav ko ralst\u012bt.<\/p>\n

Gunta Leona<\/a> To dienu notikumi, protams, bija savi\u013c\u0146ojo\u0161i, kaut ar\u012b c\u012bn\u012bj\u0101mies PRET nevis PAR. No malas v\u0113rojot \u0161odienu, rodas p\u0101rliec\u012bba, kas tas bija \u010dekas pl\u0101ns, k\u0101p\u0113c \u0161odien nevar atv\u0113rt\u0113t \u010dekas maisus, atkl\u0101tos neidom\u0101jamas lietas, visi depi v\u0113l nav nomiru\u0161i<\/p>\n

Aivars Lap\u0161\u0101ns<\/a> J\u0101ni ! Es \u0161oreiz nopietni ! Ja tie\u0161\u0101m t\u0101 ir t\u0101 pati M\u0101rtu\u017ea, tad , zin\u0101dams k\u0101ds vi\u0146ai ir naids pret kristie\u0161iem , k\u0101 vi\u0146a izplata melus un naidu, tad es, J\u0101ni, uzskatu, ka Martu\u017eai, tie\u0161\u0101m, ja t\u0101 ir t\u0101 pati, nedot nek\u0101du inform\u0101ciju. Es ar\u012b br\u012bdin\u0101\u0161u Cirveli. Esmu \u0161ok\u0101 par Granti\u0146a krimin\u0101li apmelojo\u0161\u0101s lapas iekop\u0113\u0161anu.<\/p>\n

Aivars Lap\u0161\u0101ns<\/a> Man \u0161\u0137iet, ka ir pien\u0101cis laiks piepras\u012bt Granti\u0146a lapas sl\u0113g\u0161anu.<\/p>\n

J\u0101nis Devjatnikovs<\/a> Pieprasi sava sapr\u0101ta \u00absl\u0113g\u0161anu\u00bb – \u010d\u0113kistu gar\u0101\u00bb!<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Aivars Lap\u0161\u0101ns<\/a> B\u016btu pareiz, ja Eva \u0161o visu izdz\u0113stu. Man n\u0101k v\u0113miens, zin\u0101dams k\u0101 KGB cent\u0101s sanaidot visus sav\u0101 starp\u0101 … redzu, ka \u0161is KGB uzdevums turpina darboties.<\/p>\n

Agita Draguna<\/a> Granti\u0146\u0161 jau neizdz\u0113s\u012bs.. varb\u016bt tom\u0113r ir lab\u0101k, ja te notiek \u0161\u0101da viedok\u013cu apmai\u0146a (lai gan piekr\u012btu, ka t\u0101 vietumis p\u0101rk\u0101pusi robe\u017eas), nek\u0101, ja t\u0101 nenotiktu?..<\/p>\n

Aivars Lap\u0161\u0101ns<\/a> Agita Draguna<\/a> Agita , nedr\u012bkst publiski apmelot cilv\u0113ku. Tas ir krimin\u0101lnoziegums. Nav \u0161\u0101dai diskusijai j\u0101notiek. Par ko tad vi\u0146a ir ? Ieliekam apmelojo\u0161u rakstu un uz t\u0101 pamata te da\u017ei uzslav\u0113 autoru un p\u0101rpublic\u0113t\u0101ju. Ro\u017ekalnam v\u0113l j\u0101aizst\u0101vas. Esmu \u0161ok\u0101 par vienu citu lietu, ka Eva nezin kas ir J\u0101nis Ro\u017ekalns ? Kas ir m\u016bsu n\u0101cijas pieturpunkti? Kas ar mums notiek?<\/p>\n

Agita Draguna<\/a> j\u0101, Latvij\u0101 joproj\u0101m \u013coti vajadz\u0113tu t\u0101du k\u0101rt\u012bgu precedentu re\u0101lai krimin\u0101llietai par apmelojumiem (k\u0101 zin\u0101ms, es l\u012bdz\u012bg\u0101 virzien\u0101 reiz centos dar\u012bt, cik sp\u0113ju).<\/p>\n

Aivars Lap\u0161\u0101ns<\/a> Ja j\u016bs zin\u0101tu cik J\u0101nim Ro\u017ekalnam ir Latvijas pensija ….. j\u016bs te visi nob\u0101l\u0113tu.<\/p>\n

Peteris Juhnevi\u010ds<\/a> Rakstnieki var b\u016bt atkl\u0101ti, bet \u0161\u012b diskusija apliecin\u0101ja, ka Helsinki un citi nav gatavi. M\u012b\u013cie, sa\u0146emiet drosmi! http:\/\/lr1.lsm.lv\/…\/latvijas-un-rietumu-trimdas…\/<\/a><\/p>\n

J\u0101nis Ro\u017ekalns<\/a> Eva, m\u0113\u0123in\u0101\u0161u Tev pal\u012bdz\u0113t tikt skaidr\u012bb\u0101. Starp citu, esmu tos notikumus par izbrauk\u0161anu, jau vair\u0101kk\u0101rt skaidrojis intervij\u0101s LA, NRA u.c. medijiem.
\n(Vispirms, patie\u0161\u0101m, tam L.Granti\u0146a port\u0101lam nevajadz\u0113tu tic\u0113t nevienam teikumam, jo autoram jau sen ir nopietnas psihiskas probl\u0113mas. Atceros v\u0113l Minsteres laiku, kad dz\u012bvoj\u0101m blakus namos, p\u0101ris reizes biju pie Linarda ciemos, vi\u0146am tad bija mazi b\u0113rni, kurus tikko tie s\u0101ka nedaudz trok\u0161\u0146ot, vi\u0146\u0161 kliedzot padzina zem viesistabas liel\u0101 galda un lika tur klusu s\u0113d\u0113t. M\u0113s bij\u0101m \u0161ok\u0113ti\u2026 Vi\u0146a sieva iztrur\u0113ja p\u0101ris gadus, tad aizb\u0113ga kop\u0101 ar b\u0113rniem.
\nLai atceramies, ka nesen pat LR DP netika ar \u0161o cilv\u0113ku gal\u0101 un p\u0113c aresta, dr\u012bz bija spiesta vi\u0146u atbr\u012bvot…)
\n—-
\nPar izbrauk\u0161anu.
\nVispirms, t\u0101 kopija ir dat\u0113ta ar nepareizu gadu, tas iesniegums tika rakst\u012bts nevis 1982.g, bet 1983. gad\u0101, kas redzams ar\u012b dzim\u0161anas gados – m\u016bsu dv\u012b\u0146i bija ned\u0113\u013cu atpaka\u013c dzimu\u0161i (1983.g 13.janv\u0101r\u012b), vi\u0146iem v\u0113l pat nebija v\u0101rdi\u0146i, t\u0101d\u0113\u013c t\u0101s vietas ir tuk\u0161as (Markus un Rita).
\nTas bija \u013coti dramatisks laiks: 1983.g 6.janv\u0101r\u012b bija notiku\u0161as krat\u012b\u0161anas R\u012bg\u0101 u.c. pils\u0113t\u0101s, k\u0101dos 50 dz\u012bvok\u013cos, ar\u012b visai manai \u0123imenei, G.Astram, Lidijai Lasmanei, Edm.Cirvelim(Guntas t\u0113vs) utt.
\nDa\u013ca LNK jau bija arest\u0113ti, mums p\u0101r\u0113jiem bija 24h seko\u0161ana, pratin\u0101\u0161anas.
\nMaskav\u0101 vald\u012bja sta\u013cinists, Andropovs\u2026
\nMani VDK bija spiesta atst\u0101t br\u012bv\u012bb\u0101 tikai d\u0113\u013c t\u0101, ka Gunta ar tikko dzimu\u0161ajiem dv\u012b\u0146iem bija dzemd\u012bbu nam\u0101 – t\u0101dos apst\u0101k\u013cos, mans arests b\u016btu izsaucis lielus protestus Rietumu pasaul\u0113.<\/p>\n

Protams, m\u0113s taj\u0101s dien\u0101s akt\u012bvi spried\u0101m, ko dar\u012bt t\u0101l\u0101k? Situ\u0101cija bija dramatiska. Jebkuru dienu var\u0113ja sekot Edm.Cirve\u013ca, G.Astras, mans un citu aresti.
\nSaprat\u0101m ar\u012b to, ka LNK konspirat\u012bvo darbu turpin\u0101t l\u012bdz\u0161in\u0113j\u0101 veid\u0101 vairs nevar\u0113s, jo da\u013ca no m\u016bsu grupas esam atkl\u0101ti.
\nT\u0101d\u0113\u013c kop\u0113jais l\u0113mums bija \u2013 izmantot iesp\u0113ju cer\u012bbai, ka mums izdotos emigr\u0113t, lai turpin\u0101tu c\u012b\u0146u par Latvijas br\u012bv\u012bbu Rietumos. M\u0113s labi zin\u0101j\u0101m, ka P\u0101vilam un Paulim K\u013cavi\u0146am, \u013coti tr\u016bkst darba biedru. Bez tam, m\u0113s b\u016btu tur ieradu\u0161ies ar\u012b ar pla\u0161u inform\u0101ciju par visiem apst\u0101k\u013ciem okup\u0113taj\u0101 Latvij\u0101 un preto\u0161an\u0101s vajadz\u012bb\u0101m, k\u0101 to lab\u0101k atbalst\u012bt.
\nT\u0101 ar\u012b notika, tikai jau citos apst\u0101k\u013cos, kad bij\u0101m organiz\u0113ju\u0161i 1987.g 14.j\u016bniju un 23.augustu. Tad VDK izmantoja \u0161o iesniegumu, lai no mums un v\u0113l citiem atbr\u012bvotos, at\u0146emot mums LPSR pavalstniec\u012bbu un ar \u0113breju v\u012bz\u0101m izs\u016btot uz V\u012bni (tad Maskava Reiganam bija apsol\u012bjusi izlaist zin\u0101mu skaitu ebreju, t\u0101d\u0113\u013c visi, kas taj\u0101 laik\u0101 izbrauca tika p\u0101rkrust\u012bti par \u201c\u0113brejiem\u201d).<\/p>\n

Guntis Belskis<\/a> P\u0113c tr\u012bsdesmit gadiem j\u0101taisnojas…Jo Eva M\u0101rtu\u017ea grib rakst\u012bt rom\u0101nu! Vajadz\u012bgs nodev\u0113js, viltv\u0101rdis.. (kas ta tas par rom\u0101nu bez nodev\u0113ja..) – \u0146ems ta to Ro\u017ekalnu, B\u016bs gana labs un piem\u0113rots! Tad nu tie, kas paz\u012bst autori person\u012bgi (cik var noprast), metas delik\u0101ti un diplom\u0101tiski aizst\u0101v\u0113t J\u0101ni Ro\u017ekalnu..Sak, nu, ko tu Eva…tas tak Ro\u017ekalns J\u0101nis…tas tak….J\u0101nis ar\u012b kautr\u012bgi nor\u0101da, ka c\u012bn\u012bjies par lietu. Bet Eva netic…J\u0101nis neesot cietis, esot l\u0113tas slavas guv\u0113js, tas viss esot no\u017e\u0113lojami. T\u0101tad: Evai vajag nodev\u0113ju un J\u0101nis tam ir piem\u0113rots!. Punkts. Turkl\u0101t: 1. Evai M\u0101rtu\u017eai “uz rokas” ir dokumenti – pa tie\u0161o no pa\u0161a Granti\u0146a! 2. J\u0101nis Ro\u017ekalns tic “nepareizam” Dievam…<\/p>\n

Viktors Birze<\/a> Eva, skumji par J\u016bsu attieksmi.<\/p>\n

Juris Ka\u017ea<\/a> 1) Uz jaut\u0101jumu par dokumentu ar ac\u012bm redzam\u0101m d\u012bvain\u012bb\u0101m (82.gada prasa izbrauk\u0161anu v\u0113l nedzimu\u0161iem b\u0113rniem?? ) ir atbild\u0113ts, t\u0101pat par avota ticam\u012bbu un kvalit\u0101ti – loonie tunes, ja prasa man 2) tad pretjaut\u0101jums – no kurienes \u0161\u0101di secin\u0101jumu, balsto<\/p>\n

Baiba \u0160\u0101berte<\/a> Neesmu ne tiesnese, ne prokurore, ne advok\u0101te. \u017durn\u0101liste gan. L\u012bdz ar to, Martu\u017eas kundze, pie\u013cauju, ka runa \u0161ai gad\u012bjum\u0101 ir tikai par laidar\u0101 sabrist\u0101m k\u0101j\u0101m un cilv\u0113ku m\u016b\u017eiem. Jums ne\u0161\u0137iet, ka, pirms iemest \u0161\u0101du jaut\u0101jumu (ar vair\u0101k\u0101m p\u0113cpiebild\u0113m) \u0123\u012bjgr\u0101mat\u0101, Jums, dom\u0101jot par iecer\u0113to gr\u0101matu, vispirms b\u016btu j\u0101orient\u0113jas ne uz J\u016bsu pirm\u0113jo avotu, bet gan uz arh\u012bvu, uz muzeju kr\u0101jumiem, uz pien\u0101kumu run\u0101t ar v\u0113sturniekiem, kuri p\u0101rzina tematu, uz iesp\u0113ju smagi un ilgi l\u016bgt cilv\u0113kus atmi\u0146\u0101s atgriezties vi\u0146iem s\u0101p\u012bgos laikos? Tiesa – tad rakt n\u0101ktos daudz ilg\u0101k un sirsn\u012bg\u0101k. Viegl\u0101k ar vieglu roku nekad neredz\u0113tam, neiepaz\u012btam cilv\u0113kam a priori publiski iespiest Kaina z\u012bmogu pier\u0113… Lai (ne)veicas!<\/p>\n

Elita Veidemane<\/a> Eva Martuza<\/a> j\u016bs nepamatoti “uzbrauc\u0101t” J\u0101nim Ro\u017ekalnam. t\u0101 nenotiek jaut\u0101jumu uzdo\u0161ana.<\/p>\n

J\u0101nis Ro\u017ekalns<\/a> \u0160is foto velt\u012bjums tiem, kas dikti grib\u0113ja uzzin\u0101t, kur tie\u0161i es biju tajos v\u0113sturiskajos, 14.j\u016bnija mirk\u013cos, U.Brie\u017ea foto.
\nEvai Biteniecei tur manas sievas tautas t\u0113rps. Sa\u0123\u0113rb\u0101m Evu Valdem\u0101ra iel\u0101, Rolanda dz\u012bvokl\u012b. Tad man\u0101 \u017digul\u012b brauc\u0101m pa Gorkija ielu (Es, Gunta, Rolands, Eva) uz aplenkto Br\u012bv\u012bbas pieminekli.
\nJau pie Kirova ielas aptur milicija, atveru logu, prasa – kuda poedite?, Saku: uz Br\u012bv\u012bbas piemnekli. (priek\u0161\u0101 s\u0113\u017e Eva, tautas t\u0113rp\u0101, ar ro\u017eu kl\u0113pi rok\u0101s, un tas milic\u012bts saprata, ka braucam sveikt tos rite\u0146brauc\u0113ju uzvar\u0113t\u0101jus…
\nUz visiem t\u0101l\u0101kajiem krustojumiem atk\u0101rtojas tas pats… Protams, visi no p\u0101rdz\u012bvojuma bij\u0101m nosv\u012bdu\u0161i, jo tas bija g\u0101jiens pa na\u017ea asmeni… ta\u010du taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b, mums vienk\u0101r\u0161i, cita ce\u013ca nebija…
\nBet, galvenais, t\u0101 veiksm\u012bgi tik\u0101m l\u012bdz Bastejkalnam, kur m\u016bs jau gaid\u012bja p\u0101r\u0113jie c\u012b\u0146u biedri.<\/p>\n

Juris Ka\u017ea<\/a> \u0160i diskusija iebrauca meln\u0101 humora balag\u0101na gr\u0101vi ar to, ka Eva, s\u0101kot izp\u0113ti par t\u0101 laika br\u012bv\u012bbas c\u012bn\u012bt\u0101jiem vispirms dev\u0101s pie “tautas tribun\u0101la” nevis preses arh\u012bviem un pa\u0161iem dal\u012bbniekiem. Tas ir tas pats, k\u0101 cen\u0161oties izp\u0113t\u012bt, teiksim \u0160veici, vispirms doties uz C\u012brihes trako m\u0101ju :).<\/p>\n

J\u0101nis Ro\u017ekalns<\/a> Man te raksta epast\u0101 cilv\u0113ki, kas neizpratn\u0113 par tiem d\u012bvainajiem “Evas Martu\u017eas” koment\u0101riem, ka iesp\u0113jams, vai ” k\u0101ds nav viltojis vi\u0146as FB kontu”?
\nPatie\u0161\u0101m, \u0161odien m\u0113dz notikt br\u012bnum lietas. T\u0101 k\u0101 j\u0101sakaida liel\u0101ka skaidr\u012bba, kas te visp\u0101r notiek?…
\n(Kam ir Evas tel.nr<\/a>., varb\u016bt pazvaniet vi\u0146ai, apjaut\u0101ties.)<\/p>\n

Elita Veidemane<\/a> j\u0101, Granti\u0146am uztic\u0113ties… nu, nonsenss. un uzbrukt J\u0101nim Ro\u017ekalnam? absurds.<\/p>\n

Aivars Lap\u0161\u0101ns<\/a> Dace Morica M\u0113s labi zin\u0101m, ka gan Cirve\u013ci un Ro\u017ekalni bija un ir kristie\u0161i. Zin\u0101dams k\u0101du naidu pret kristie\u0161iem izj\u016bt Eva, es saprotu to, ka vi\u0146a mekl\u0113 kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us materi\u0101lus , da\u017e\u0101das v\u0113sturiskas lietas, kas j\u0101pieraksta noziedz\u012bgai bazn\u012bcu varai laimmetu grie\u017eos, kur b\u012bskapi bija t\u012bri krimin\u0101li elementi, kuri vienk\u0101r\u0161i bija iel\u012bdu\u0161i bazn\u012bc\u0101s. Protams, Eva par to nerakst\u012bs. Vi\u0146a visp\u0101rin\u0101s. Un iekost m\u016bsu valsts vienam no lab\u0101kajiem d\u0113liem tas ir glob\u0101ls uzdevums. Toreiz to dar\u012bja komunisti, tagad da\u017e\u0101di str\u0101vojumi – agres\u012bvie homoseksu\u0101listi, jaunie marksisti, da\u013ca Dievturi utt. Cik saprotu, Eva p\u0101rst\u0101v Dievturus.<\/p>\n

Aivars Lap\u0161\u0101ns<\/a> Dace Morica<\/a> Tas, ka Tu paz\u012bsti Evu nenoz\u012bm\u0113 to, ka Tev, ja vi\u0146a ir piev\u0113rsusies kristie\u0161u nomelno\u0161anas baram ir j\u0101saka t\u0101 , ka vi\u0146a ir ok. Nav vi\u0146a ok. Man ar\u012b tas ir \u013coto skumji. Es to nebiju gaid\u012bjis, ka Eva ir aizg\u0101jusi uz t\u0101d\u0101m zemisk\u0101m liet\u0101m. Ja Tu netici, tad , pav\u0113ro FB Evas klejojumus un koment\u0101rus. Vecs, z\u0101k\u0101jo\u0161s komunistu stils pret kristie\u0161iem.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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