{"id":34665,"date":"2016-10-03T11:38:55","date_gmt":"2016-10-03T08:38:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tautastribunals.eu\/?p=34665"},"modified":"2021-03-17T10:36:55","modified_gmt":"2021-03-17T08:36:55","slug":"a-saulitis-atmodas-kriminalizacijapiedodietantologija","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tautastribunals.eu\/?p=34665","title":{"rendered":"A.Saul\u012btis. Atmodas kriminaliz\u0101cija,piedodiet,antolo\u0123ija"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"www.tautastribunals.eu-1411\"<\/a>L\u012bdz \u0161im nebiju redz\u0113jis Askolda Saul\u012b\u0161a \u201cbr\u012bnumdarbu\u201d- ATMODAS ANTOLO\u0122IJA <\/strong>un pat nezin\u0101ju, ka t\u0101da eksist\u0113, l\u012bdz k\u0101ds \u0161\u012bs vietnes las\u012bt\u0101js par to iemin\u0113j\u0101s. Vi\u0146\u0161 ar\u012b v\u0113l\u0113j\u0101s, lai es pasaku savas domas par to.<\/p>\n

\u0160\u012b filma ir visu \u0161o sarkano noziedznieku reabilit\u0101cija !<\/h2>\n

Jau p\u0113c pirmaj\u0101m min\u016bt\u0113m bija j\u0101sa\u0137er galva un \u201cj\u0101novaidas\u201d.<\/strong><\/p>\n

https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2ytQ-rto8rk<\/strong><\/a><\/h1>\n

Ja es neb\u016btu Latvijas<\/strong> akt\u012bv\u0101s ATMODAS<\/strong> aizs\u0101c\u0113js, es \u0161o \u010dekas murgu jau p\u0113c desmit min\u016bt\u0113m b\u016btu izsl\u0113dzis, bet t\u0101 k\u0101 mans uzdevums ir atmaskot komunistu- cionistu noziegumus pret latvie\u0161u tautu, tad izn\u0101ca to noskat\u012bties l\u012bdz galam.<\/p>\n

Varb\u016bt, ka jaunajai paaudzei, kura nebija piedz\u012bvojusi Padomju laikus<\/strong>, filmas person\u0101\u017es un vi\u0146u \u201cvaron\u012bgie\u201d<\/strong> st\u0101sti liksies ticami, bet iesp\u0113jams, ka tas viss jau ar\u012b bija velt\u012bts p\u0113cAtmodas <\/strong>paaudzei- ar nodomu izdz\u0113st v\u0113sturisko paties\u012bbu<\/span><\/strong>. Nedom\u0101ju, ka t\u0101ds \u201cAskoldi\u0146\u0161\u201d<\/strong> nezin\u0101ja par to, ko es \u0161eit taisos sac\u012bt un, proti, paties\u012bbu par \u0161\u012bs filmas \u201caktieriem\u201d, <\/strong>bet neskatoties uz to, visi \u0161ie meli tiek dokument\u0113ti un ielikti LR <\/strong>v\u0113stures arh\u012bv\u0101.<\/p>\n

\u0160ai filmai, ja t\u0101 grib pretend\u0113t uz kaut jel k\u0101du objektivit\u0101ti, v\u0113sturisko Paties\u012bbu<\/strong><\/span>, bija j\u0101s\u0101kas ar mani un manis sac\u012bto.<\/p>\n

Bet- t\u0101 k\u0101 viss tas ir 4. maija kli\u0137es <\/strong>p\"Askolds<\/a>as\u016bt\u012bjums ar nodomu: visus notikumus, kas saist\u012bti ar maniem un latvie\u0161u tautas nopelniem Atmodas period\u0101<\/strong>, revid\u0113t par labu komunistiem, tad mani ir j\u0101noklus\u0113, pat fiziski j\u0101izn\u012bcina<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Skatoties no \u0161\u012b redzes le\u0146\u0137a, A. Saul\u012btis<\/strong> ir nep\u0101rprotami vainojams \u010dekas centienos mani noslepkavot, jo, jebkuru melu gala izn\u0101kums ir: \u201casinis\u201d- <\/span><\/strong>slepkavo\u0161ana, varm\u0101c\u012bba un neliet\u012bgi kari<\/span>.<\/p>\n

T\u0101 ir fundament\u0101la paties\u012bba, kas past\u0101v kop\u0161 rad\u012bta \u0161\u012b PASAULE<\/strong>, t\u0101tad- DIEVA LIKUMS<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

\"Bitenieks.Juris-RubenisModris-Pl\u0101te-M\u0101ris-LudviksAndrejs-KavacisLinards-Granti\u0146\u0161-Aivars-Garda.-Kopie\"<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

Askolds Saul\u012btis<\/strong> ir noziedz\u012bga pas\u016bt\u012bjuma \u012bstenot\u0101js. Ja neb\u016btu t\u0101di \u201cpas\u016bt\u012bjuma\u201d<\/strong> \u012bstenot\u0101ji, tad nevar\u0113tu tikt pastr\u0101d\u0101ts ar\u012b pats noziegums, lai ar\u012b cik liela b\u016btu pas\u016bt\u012bt\u0101ja v\u0113lme to veikt <\/span><\/strong>!<\/p>\n

\u0160is Saul\u012btis <\/strong>nav nek\u0101ds za\u013ckn\u0101bis, kuram var\u0113tu \u201cpierakst\u012bt\u201d<\/strong> nesen\u0101s v\u0113stures nezin\u0101\u0161anu. Uz vi\u0146a pleciem ir tie\u0161i puse no gadsimta<\/strong>. Tas ir pats sapr\u0101t\u012bg\u0101kais vecums, k\u0101ds vien ir iedom\u0101jams. Ir ieg\u016bta dz\u012bves pieredze un gar\u012bgi- fiziskais potenci\u0101ls ir jaud\u012bgs.<\/p>\n

Un tagad paskat\u012bsimies, kas par vi\u0146u tiek rakst\u012bts: \u201cTautas frontes 25.gadu atceres m\u0113nes\u012b savu ce\u013cu pie skat\u012bt\u0101jiem ir s\u0101kusi re\u017eisora Askolda Saul\u012b\u0161a jaun\u0101k\u0101 dokument\u0101l\u0101 filma \u201eAtmodas antolo\u0123ija\u201d. Ar\u012b \u0161\u012b, t\u0101pat k\u0101 vair\u0101kas iepriek\u0161\u0113j\u0101s filmas, st\u0101sta par re\u017eisoram tuv\u0101m t\u0113m\u0101m v\u0113stur\u0113. A.Saul\u012b\u0161a veidot\u0101s filmas ir izpeln\u012bju\u0161\u0101s gan skat\u012bt\u0101ju simp\u0101tijas un atzin\u012bbu, gan apbalvotas ar nacion\u0101lo kino balvu \u201eLielais Kristaps\u201d, k\u0101 ar\u012b guvu\u0161as iev\u0113r\u012bbu aiz Latvijas robe\u017e\u0101m.\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Pirmais, kas mums ir skaidrs, ka 4. maija kli\u0137es<\/strong> preses rupori neslav\u0113 nevienu, kas aizst\u0101v latvie\u0161u tautas intereses. Simp\u0101tijas par vi\u0146a film\u0101m var izteikt tie, kuri nezina v\u0113sturi vai ar\u012b tie, kuriem tas j\u0101dara.<\/p>\n

Kas attiecas uz starptautiskajiem un viet\u0113jiem v\u0113rt\u0113t\u0101jiem, tad tas ar\u012b nav nek\u0101ds nosl\u0113pums, k\u0101dam \u201clokam<\/strong>\u201d(pseido taut\u012bbai un politiskajam virzienam) <\/em>tie pieder. Jebkur\u0161 politiski izgl\u012btots un v\u0113sturi zino\u0161s latvietis \u201cAtmodas antolo\u0123iju\u201d <\/strong>uzskat\u012bs par krimin\u0101li sod\u0101mu v\u0113stures falsifik\u0101ciju. Nekur jau ar\u012b n\u0101kotn\u0113 \u0161ie falsifikatori- savas tautas n\u012bd\u0113ji no soda neizspruks, jo tas ir apak\u0161punkts aps\u016bdz\u012bbai: GENOC\u012aDS.<\/p>\n

Kas tad \u0161aj\u0101 murg\u0101– ATMODAS ANTOLO\u0122IJA<\/strong>***<\/span> ir st\u0101st\u012bts ?<\/p>\n

Es gan to nod\u0113v\u0113tu daudz sav\u0101d\u0101k.<\/p>\n

Tas vair\u0101k l\u012bdzin\u0101s st\u0101stam par Atmodas izn\u012bcin\u0101\u0161anu<\/strong> un t\u0101s kriminaliz\u0101cijas procesu<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n

\"Atmoda,<\/a>Visi, piln\u012bgi visi interv\u0113tie un videoz\u0113tie bija komunisti vai VDK darbinieki<\/span><\/strong>.<\/p>\n

http:\/\/tautastribunals.eu\/?p=16125<\/a><\/h2>\n

K\u0101dus tik varo\u0146darbus \u0161ie, ar \u010deku saist\u012btie padibenes, sev nepied\u0113v\u0113ja !?<\/p>\n

Cik viss esot \u201cgudri dar\u012bts<\/strong>\u201d, lai tiktu pie ilgot\u0101s br\u012bv\u012bbas !<\/p>\n

Ka esot c\u0113lu ide\u0101lu d\u0113\u013c \u201cpadz\u012bta\u201d Pilso\u0146u Kongresa<\/strong> ideja.<\/p>\n

Vai \u0161is pats Askolds <\/strong>nezin\u0101ja un nesaprata, ka PK<\/strong> bija par \u0161\u0137\u0113rsli noziedz\u012bgajai komunistu bandai<\/strong>, lai atkal tiktu pie varas gro\u017eiem ? Askolds<\/strong> to zin\u0101ja, un k\u0101 v\u0113l zin\u0101ja, bet vienalga turpin\u0101ja savu \u201cantolo\u0123iju<\/strong>\u201d(dzejo\u0161anu<\/em>). Vai vi\u0146\u0161 ar\u012b nezin\u0101ja un nezin, ka visi \u0161ie \u201catmodisti<\/strong>\u201d ir k\u013cuvu\u0161i pasakaini bag\u0101ti- miljon\u0101ri <\/span><\/strong>? K\u0101p\u0113c \u0161is spruksti\u0146\u0161, kura v\u0101rds p\u0113c dokumentiem skait\u0101s Askolds Saul\u012btis<\/strong>, ne reizi par to pat neiemin\u0113j\u0101s ?<\/p>\n

K\u0101p\u0113c \u0161is spruksti\u0146\u0161 savam \u201caktieru pulkam\u201d,<\/strong> ar Johansonu<\/strong> priek\u0161gal\u0101, nepajaut\u0101ja: K\u0101p\u0113c Atmodas <\/strong>aizs\u0101c\u0113js L. Granti\u0146\u0161<\/strong> par 14. j\u016bnija demonstr\u0101cijas organiz\u0113\u0161anu tika iemests \u0160\u0137irotas nometn\u0113 pie krievu krimin\u0101listiem nosi\u0161anai<\/span> ?<\/p>\n

L. Granti\u0146u <\/strong>ar salauzt\u0101m rib\u0101m un lauztu kr\u016b\u0161u kurvi no n\u0101ves pagl\u0101ba 30 ASV kongresme\u0146i<\/strong> ar klaida latvie\u0161u pal\u012bdz\u012bbu, bet neviens no \u0161iem \u201caktieriem\u201d<\/strong> pat pirksti\u0146u nepakustin\u0101ja Atmodas<\/strong> aizs\u0101c\u0113ja lab\u0101. Toties tagad it visi st\u0101sta par saviem darbiem tautas \u201clab\u0101\u201d<\/strong> ! V\u0113l jo vair\u0101k, daudzi \u0161eit piemin\u0113tie bija tie\u0161i l\u012bdzvain\u012bgi manas slepkav\u012bbas m\u0113\u0123in\u0101jum\u0101.<\/p>\n

Jebkuram no mums rodas \u0101rpr\u0101ta riebums, kad tiek r\u0101d\u012bts \u010dekas izdzimtenis un komunists kriev\u017e\u012bds I. Godmanis<\/strong>. \u0160is slepkava nav peln\u012bjis, ka vi\u0146u no\u0161auj vai pakar, bet vienk\u0101r\u0161i j\u0101nosit k\u0101 \u013caunas s\u0113rgas aps\u0113stu suni.<\/p>\n

Atmodas<\/strong> laik\u0101 tika noslepkavoti Slapi\u0146\u0161, Zvaigzne<\/strong> un Podnieks<\/strong>. Vi\u0146i, patie\u0161\u0101m, bija goda un slavas cien\u012bgi<\/strong><\/span>, bet ne tu, ar nol\u0101d\u0113t\u012bbas z\u012bmi apz\u012bmogotais s\u0101tana kalps<\/span>: Askolds Saul\u012btis <\/strong>!<\/p>\n

Toreiz tika run\u0101ts par \u201ckaut k\u0101du tre\u0161o sp\u0113ku<\/strong>\u201d, kas \u0161o asinsdarbu veica. Tad, l\u016bk, kriev\u017e\u012bds Godmanis<\/strong> ir \u0161\u012b tre\u0161\u0101 sp\u0113ka p\u0101rst\u0101vis Latvij\u0101<\/strong>. \u201cTre\u0161ais sp\u0113ks\u201d<\/strong> bija nekas cits k\u0101 MASSAD<\/strong>s, tas, kuram tu neliet, Askold Saul\u012bt<\/strong>, \u0161odien kalpo, t\u0101pat k\u0101 \u201cslavenais\u201d M\u0101ris Ruks<\/strong> !<\/p>\n

Bet turpin\u0101sim par \u0161\u012bs s\u0101tanisk\u0101s filmas \u201cvaro\u0146iem<\/strong>\u201d. Vareni maktenas \u201crun\u0101t\u0101jas\u201d <\/strong>ir Sandra Kalniete<\/strong> un Elita Veidemane<\/strong>. Abas ir v\u0101rda vistie\u0161\u0101kaj\u0101 noz\u012bm\u0113 maukas<\/span>, kuras savu \u0161odienas st\u0101vokli ir nopeln\u012bju\u0161as \u201ctrinot k\u0101jstarpi<\/strong>\u201d ar \u010dekistu- MOSSAD<\/strong>istu, latvie\u0161u tautas slepkavu, jau piemin\u0113to I. Godmani. <\/strong>Tik “aptaukoju\u0161\u0101s”<\/strong> maukas, ka pat nekaunas par to sarakst\u012bt gr\u0101matas un st\u0101st\u012bt radio. LTF <\/strong>birojs bija p\u0101rv\u0113rsts par \u012bstu dzertuves un mauc\u012bbas midzeni ! Godmanis <\/strong>ar Veidemani <\/strong>toreiz skaidr\u0101 tik pat k\u0101 netika redz\u0113ti, ja nu vien\u012bgi, tad uz pa\u0123ir\u0101m un tad atkal viss no gala\u2026 . Visi Tautas Frontes<\/strong> pas\u0101kumi tika saska\u0146oti ar Kompartijas Centr\u0101lo Komiteju<\/strong>. Kalniete<\/strong> un Vaidere <\/strong>pild\u012bja kurjeru lomu starp LTF<\/strong> un CK<\/strong> !<\/p>\n

S. \u0112lerte, <\/strong>\u0161\u012b latvie\u0161u tautas nodev\u012bbas odze, tad kad citi komunisti meta savas Partijas bi\u013cetes Atmodas ugunskuros<\/strong>, iest\u0101j\u0101s \u0161aj\u0101 s\u0101taniskaj\u0101 veidojum\u0101, kas m\u016bsu tautai maks\u0101jis neiedom\u0101jamu skaitu upuru un cie\u0161anu. Un, k\u0101 redzam, tad atmaks\u0101j\u0101s, jo uz latvie\u0161u tautas bag\u0101t\u012bbu r\u0113\u0137ina ir k\u013cuvusi par miljon\u0101ri. \u0160\u012b gar\u012bgi kropl\u0101 rad\u012bba kop\u0101 ar kriev\u017e\u012bdu Karginu <\/strong>un Godmani<\/strong> ir iedzinusi Latviju<\/strong> neskait\u0101mu miljardu par\u0101dos. Viss nozagtais jau neatrodas Krievij\u0101 <\/strong>vai ASV<\/strong>, bet gan \u0161o izdzimte\u0146u nelikum\u012bgaj\u0101 dzimten\u0113 Izra\u0113l\u0101<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Par varoni tiek ar\u012b tais\u012bts alkoholi\u0137is Dainis \u012avans<\/strong>, kur\u0161 k\u0101d\u0101 dz\u0113ruma sirdsapzi\u0146as kr\u012bzes reiz\u0113 pasac\u012bja taisn\u012bbu par \u0161o \u201catmodistu<\/strong>\u201d bandu. Vi\u0146a sac\u012btais br\u012bnumain\u0101 k\u0101rt\u0101 ir pazudis no \u201cv\u0113stures\u201d <\/strong>plauktiem. Vien\u012bgi LRTT<\/strong> vietn\u0113 tas atrodams.<\/p>\n

L\u016bk vi\u0146a sac\u012btais:<\/span><\/strong> \u201dEs teiktu t\u0101 \u2013 piedod, m\u0101te Latvija, ka p\u0113c 20 gadiem, dz\u012bdamies vair\u0101k p\u0113c person\u012bga labuma, rausdami tavas bag\u0101t\u012bbas tikai sav\u0101 priv\u0101t\u012bpa\u0161um\u0101, m\u0113s esam aizmirsu\u0161i Tevi pa\u0161u un neesam r\u016bp\u0113ju\u0161ies par visu tavu b\u0113rnu, tikai par da\u017eu izredz\u0113to labkl\u0101j\u012bbu. Piedod ar\u012b par to, ka pie tava saimes galda da\u017ei ir brangi p\u0101r\u0113du\u0161ies, t\u0101p\u0113c citiem atliek uz to tikai noskat\u012bties. Un visup\u0113d\u012bgi, piedod, ka mums smag\u0101 br\u012bv\u012bbas nasta daudzk\u0101rt likusies par gr\u016btu. M\u0113s esam sviedu\u0161i to zem\u0113 un b\u0113gu\u0161i proj\u0101m.\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Vair\u0101k par \u0161o de\u0123ener\u0101tu varam las\u012bt \u0161eit, kad cionisti vi\u0146am pie\u0161\u0137ir apbalvojumu V\u0101cij\u0101,<\/strong> tie\u0161i taj\u0101 pils\u0113t\u0101, kur\u0101 esmu apmeties uz pagaidu dz\u012bvi. Vai sagad\u012b\u0161an\u0101s ? Protams, ka n\u0113, tas ir s\u0101tanisks ritu\u0101ls, kas v\u0113rsts pret mani<\/span><\/strong>, Paties\u012bbu<\/span><\/strong> un latvie\u0161u tautu.<\/span> <\/strong>Bija ta\u010du dar\u012bts viss iesp\u0113jamais, lai es taj\u0101 datum\u0101 vairs neb\u016btu \u0161aisaul\u0113: http:\/\/tautastribunals.eu\/?p=28015<\/a><\/p>\n

Pretek\u013ci M. Z\u0101l\u012bte <\/strong>un J. Peters <\/strong>ar\u012b paver savas pret\u012bg\u0101s cionistu- komunistu \u201cr\u012bkles<\/strong>\u201d. Peters <\/strong>bija viens no galvenajiem Atmodas gr\u0101v\u0113jiem<\/strong> un Maskavas pav\u0113\u013cu pild\u012bt\u0101jiem<\/strong>. Augst\u0101k\u0101s raudzes antilatvisks elements, t\u0101pat k\u0101 komuniste M\u0101ra Z\u0101l\u012bte<\/strong>, kuras v\u012brs ir VDK kapteinis<\/strong>, atkl\u0101ta cioniste, visa latvisk\u0101 n\u012bd\u0113ja, kaut gan uzdodas par latvie\u0161u aizst\u0101vi. Peters <\/strong>un Z\u0101l\u012bte<\/strong> bija \u017e\u012bdietei- cionistei Vairai V\u012b\u0137ei Freibergai <\/strong>par konsultantiem latvie\u0161u valodas jaut\u0101jum\u0101. Tie\u0161i \u0161ie divi padibenes ir vain\u012bgi, ka latvie\u0161u valoda Latvij\u0101<\/strong> ir maz\u0101ksvar\u012bga k\u0101 okupantu valoda. Visa Z\u0101l\u012btes<\/strong> \u0123imene ir \u0123en\u0113tiski paraz\u012btiska un ar\u012b ir k\u013cuvusi vair\u0101ku miljonu \u012bpa\u0161niece !!! Par \u0161iem paraz\u012btiem \u0161aj\u0101 i- vietn\u0113<\/strong> jau ir pietieko\u0161i daudz rakst\u012bts. Ierakstiet \u0161\u012bs i- vietnes<\/strong><\/span> mekl\u0113t\u0101j\u0101 \u0161o noziedznieku v\u0101rdus un j\u016bs uzzin\u0101siet vair\u0101k.<\/p>\n

V\u0113l savu noziedz\u012bgo fizionomiju \u0161aj\u0101 film\u0101 r\u0101da \u0160kapars.<\/strong> Min\u0113\u0161u k\u0101du gad\u012bjumu, kas nor\u0101da uz \u0161\u012b izdzimte\u0146a attieksmi pret \u201cgoj\u0101m\u201d,<\/strong> proti, pret latvie\u0161u tautu. Tas bija sen, kad Juris Vidi\u0146\u0161<\/strong> v\u0113l nebija no \u010dekistiem salauzts, bija H- 86 grupas vad\u012bt\u0101js<\/strong>, kuru es vi\u0146am uztic\u0113ju p\u0113c manas padz\u012b\u0161anas no Latvijas.<\/strong> Vi\u0146\u0161 atst\u0101st\u012bja gad\u012bjumu ar \u0161o latvie\u0161u tautas nodev\u0113ju. \u0160kapars <\/strong>uzrun\u0101jis Vidi\u0146u<\/strong>: \u201cN\u0101c pie mums, ko tu tur ar vi\u0146iem, m\u0113s uzrakst\u012bsim lab\u0101ku MEMORANDU <\/strong>nek\u0101 vi\u0146i.\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

Kad Juris Vidi\u0146\u0161<\/strong> v\u0113l\u0101k las\u012bjis \u0160kapara & Co<\/strong> rakst\u012bto, vi\u0146\u0161 sac\u012bjis vi\u0146am: \u201cBet j\u016bs jau tie\u0161i to pa\u0161u esiet uzrakst\u012bju\u0161i, ko Granti\u0146\u0161 !\u201d<\/span> <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cNu j\u0101, bet ko tad v\u0113l citu m\u0113s var\u0113j\u0101m uzrakst\u012bt\u201d,<\/span> <\/em><\/strong>vi\u0146\u0161 \u201catcirtis\u201d !<\/p>\n

L\u016bk, t\u0101da ir \u0161\u012b cionista un pretek\u013ca \u0160kapara<\/strong> attieksme ne tikai pret Atmodas<\/strong> aizs\u0101c\u0113ju, bet visu latvie\u0161u tautu: \u201cN\u0101c pie MUMS<\/strong>, ko tu ar tiem goj\u0101m !\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

Viena vien\u012bga nol\u0101d\u0113ta zag\u013cu un slepkavu banda !<\/p>\n

“Vot tev i Atmodas person\u0101ls vis\u0101 sav\u0101 kr\u0101\u0161\u0146um\u0101 !!!”<\/h2>\n

Pirms gada bija raksts: Diskusija- Katrai paaudzei no jauna j\u0101ieg\u016bst sava neatkar\u012bba<\/strong><\/p>\n

Raksts internet\u0101 piln\u012bb\u0101 vairs nav pieejams, t\u0101p\u0113c es to iekop\u0113\u0161u \u0161\u012b raksta beig\u0101s. Taj\u0101 ir interesanta rindkopa, kas piln\u012bg\u0101 pretrun\u0101 ar \u0161iem cionist- komunistiskajiem atmodistiem.<\/p>\n

L\u016bk \u017eurn\u0101lista sac\u012btais: \u2013 <\/strong>1990. gad\u0101 interv\u0113ju vienu no t\u0101 laika LPSR Valsts Dro\u0161\u012bbas komitejas vado\u0161ajiem darbiniekiem. Vi\u0146\u0161 teica: Tautas fronte mud\u017e no m\u016bsu cilv\u0113kiem, no pustrakajiem un l\u0113ttic\u012bgajiem. Ar\u012b m\u016bsdien\u0101s daudzi uzskata, ka Tautas fronte esot bijis PSRS VDK projekts. Cik pamatots ir viedoklis, ka LTF bija \u010dekistu projekts?<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Ko atbild\u0113ja Godma\u0146a \u201c\u0161ekumdrille\u201d Veidemane<\/strong>, lasiet beigu pielikum\u0101.<\/p>\n

04.10.16\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 L. Granti\u0146\u0161<\/p>\n

***<\/span>Jaut\u0101jums ir ar\u012b par v\u0101rda ANTOLO\u0122IJA<\/strong> izmanto\u0161anu \u0161aj\u0101 \u201ckrimin\u0101lfilm\u0101\u201d.<\/strong> Skaidroj\u0161\u0101 v\u0101rdn\u012bca sac\u012bts: Kr\u0101jums, kur\u0101 apvienoti da\u017e\u0101du autoru dai\u013cdarbi(parasti dzeja<\/em>). Dom\u0101dams neizdom\u0101si, k\u0101ds \u0161im murgam ir sakars ar dai\u013cdarbiem un dzeju ? Bet, ja Askoldo to t\u0101 saka, tad tam t\u0101 b\u016bs b\u016bt\u2026 .<\/p>\n

\"MIGLA<\/a>Diskusija- Katrai paaudzei no jauna j\u0101ieg\u016bst sava neatkar\u012bba<\/strong><\/h2>\n

30.apr\u012blis 2015<\/p>\n

Pirms 25 gadiem tautas lemti politi\u0137i Latvijas PSR Augst\u0101kaj\u0101 Padom\u0113 pie\u0146\u0113ma tautas izsap\u0146otu l\u0113mumu \u2013 deklar\u0101ciju Par Latvijas Republikas neatkar\u012bbas atjauno\u0161anu. Katrai valstij ir savs juridiskais s\u0101kums vai turpin\u0101jums, bet nav nemaz tik daudz analogu, kuros fiks\u0113ta valsts atjauno\u0161ana p\u0113c 50 okup\u0101cijas gadiem. T\u0101p\u0113c \u0161is dokuments ir unik\u0101ls un piel\u012bdzin\u0101ms pasaules slaven\u0101kaj\u0101m neatkar\u012bbas deklar\u0101cij\u0101m.<\/strong><\/p>\n

K\u0101 tas bija un k\u0101 izskat\u0101s, \u0161odienas ac\u012bm raugoties, sarun\u0101 ar biju\u0161o AP deput\u0101tu J\u0101ni Dinevi\u010du un k\u0101dreiz\u0113jo LTF laikraksta Atmoda galveno redaktori Elitu Veidemani.<\/p>\n

\u2013 1990. gada 4. maijs \u2013 k\u0101da jums palikusi pr\u0101t\u0101 \u0161\u012b diena?<\/strong><\/p>\n

J. Dinevi\u010ds: \u2013 \u0160\u012b diena bija manas politisk\u0101s darb\u012bbas augst\u0101kais punkts, jo nobalsot par savas valsts atjauno\u0161anu nav lemts katram.<\/p>\n

\"Din\u0113vi\u010ds,<\/a>E. Veidemane: \u2013 sagad\u012bj\u0101s t\u0101, ka 1990. gada 4. maij\u0101 es nebiju Latvij\u0101. K\u0101dam no Latvijas Tautas frontes (LTF) vajadz\u0113ja doties uz Amerikas Latvie\u0161u apvien\u012bbas (ALA) kongresu, kas notika Sanfrancisko. T\u0101 k\u0101 visi galvenie tautfrontie\u0161i atrad\u0101s Augst\u0101kaj\u0101 Padom\u0113, kur vi\u0146iem vajadz\u0113ja balsot par Latvijas neatkar\u012bbu, uz ASV devos es, kaut gan tie\u0161i 4. maij\u0101 man \u013coti grib\u0113j\u0101s b\u016bt Latvij\u0101. Atceros, ka kongres\u0101 bija \u013coti slikti telefonsakari ar Latviju. P\u0113c k\u0101da laika tos beidzot nodibin\u0101ja. Kad Oj\u0101rs Kalni\u0146\u0161\u00a0pateica, ka Latvijas Augst\u0101k\u0101 Padome nobalsojusi par Latvijas neatkar\u012bbu, visi kongresa deleg\u0101ti piec\u0113l\u0101s un aplaud\u0113ja. Es paliku s\u0113\u017eam: manas k\u0101jas bija k\u013cuvu\u0161as k\u0101 no vates, un nebija sp\u0113ka piecelties… Es tikai raud\u0101ju\u00a0\u2013 aiz laimes…<\/p>\n

\u2013 Veidojot deklar\u0101ciju, nopietn\u0101k\u0101s diskusijas bija par to, vai pasludin\u0101t piln\u012bgu neatkar\u012bbu vai m\u012b\u013c\u0101 miera labad palikt pie t.s. p\u0101rejas perioda. K\u0101p\u0113c tik daudz \u0161\u0137\u0113pu tika lauzts par \u0161iem formul\u0113jumiem?<\/strong><\/p>\n

J. D.: \u2013 Latvija nebija gatava vien\u0101 mirkl\u012b pasludin\u0101t, ka t\u0101 ir neatkar\u012bga valsts, un darboties t\u0101s likumdo\u0161anas ietvaros, kas bija sp\u0113k\u0101 l\u012bdz 1940. gadam. Likumdo\u0161ana bija j\u0101maina, bet to nevar\u0113ja izdar\u012bt viena balsojuma laik\u0101. Nevar\u0113ja atst\u0101t \u0161o juridisko b\u0101zi, jo t\u0101 bija pie\u0146emta bez Saeimas\u00a0akcepta, tikai ar Ulma\u0146a vald\u012bbas l\u0113mumiem.<\/p>\n

E. V.: \u2013 Nopietn\u0101s diskusijas s\u0101k\u0101s jau daudz agr\u0101k: 1989. gada maij\u0101, kad P\u0113tera La\u0137a\u00a0domubiedru grupa laida klaj\u0101 31. maija Aicin\u0101jumu, kas noteica nevis kaut k\u0101das suver\u0113nas Latvijas eksistenci suver\u0113n\u0101 Padomju Savien\u012bb\u0101, bet gan piln\u012bgi br\u012bvu un neatkar\u012bgu Latviju. Tad jau ar\u012b s\u0101k\u0101s nesaska\u0146as starp principi\u0101lajiem br\u012bv\u012bbas atbalst\u012bt\u0101jiem un m\u0113reni roz\u012bgajiem. \u0160\u012bs nesaska\u0146as atspogu\u013coj\u0101s ar\u012b LTF laikrakst\u0101. Atmoda ne\u0161aub\u012bgi bija par pilnu neatkar\u012bbu. Savuk\u0101rt liela da\u013ca LTF valdes demonstr\u0113ja remdenu m\u0113ren\u012bbu un piesardz\u012bbu.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Toreiz, kad tapa deklar\u0101cija, sabiedr\u012bba bija sadal\u012bjusies divos sp\u0113kos \u2013 LTF un Interfront\u0113. Tad uz vienu latvieti v\u0113l nebija 10 partiju. T\u0101tad par saturu it k\u0101 nevajadz\u0113tu b\u016bt liel\u0101m diskusij\u0101m, un tom\u0113r bija. Par Interfronti viss skaidrs. Taj\u0101 darboj\u0101s neatkar\u012bbas pretinieki. Ta\u010du n\u0101c\u0101s p\u0101rliecin\u0101t ar\u012b sav\u0113jos \u2013 Pilso\u0146u kongresu un remdenos jeb t.s. roz\u0101 komunistus.<\/strong><\/p>\n

J. D.: \u2013 Pilso\u0146u kongress visp\u0101r neatzina \u0161o parlament\u0101ro ce\u013cu, kuru pied\u0101v\u0101ja LTF. Kongress uzskat\u012bja, ka j\u0101iet starptautiski pie\u0146emtais, juridiski korektais ce\u013c\u0161, kaut ar\u012b tobr\u012bd tas neveda pie Latvijas neatkar\u012bbas atjauno\u0161anas. Atcer\u0113simies, k\u0101da bija rietumvalstu nost\u0101ja: esiet pr\u0101t\u012bgi, tikai \u2013 soli pa solim, netrauc\u0113jiet Gorba\u010dovam veikt reformas. \u0160aubos, vai Rietumus b\u016btu interes\u0113jis PK viedoklis par Latvijas neatkar\u012bbas atjauno\u0161anu. Laika gait\u0101 ir pier\u0101d\u012bjies, ka m\u016bsu izmantot\u0101 t\u0101 br\u012b\u017ea likumdo\u0161ana, kas \u013c\u0101va ar 2\/3 (138 bals\u012bm) atjaunot neatkar\u012bbas statusu, bija vien\u012bgais un pareizais ce\u013c\u0161.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Neatkar\u012bbas deklar\u0101cij\u0101 AP iz\u0161\u0137\u012br\u0101s par formul\u0113jumu pirm\u0101 republika. Ja toreiz neb\u016btu akcent\u0113ta \u0161\u0101da juridisk\u0101 p\u0113ctec\u012bba…<\/strong><\/p>\n

J. D.: \u2013 …dom\u0101ju, ka rezult\u0101ts b\u016btu tra\u0123isks. Jo t\u0101d\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 visi, kuri atrad\u0101s \u0161aj\u0101 teritorij\u0101, k\u013c\u016btu par Latvijas pilso\u0146iem.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Ik pa br\u012bdim krieviski raksto\u0161ajos medijos atskan p\u0101rmetumi: re, k\u0101 m\u016bs pie\u010dakar\u0113ja, solot pilson\u012bbu visiem Latvijas iedz\u012bvot\u0101jiem!<\/strong><\/p>\n

E. V.: \u2013 Tie ir meli un manipul\u0101cijas, lai kacin\u0101tu m\u016b\u017eam neapmierin\u0101tos.<\/p>\n

\u2013 LTF programm\u0101 un t\u0101 laika svar\u012bg\u0101kajos dokumentos tika teikts, ka pilson\u012bbu dab\u016bs visi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

E. V.: \u2013 Nevien\u0101 LTF dokument\u0101 nekas t\u0101ds nebija min\u0113ts.<\/p>\n

J. D.: \u2013 Tie\u0161i t\u0101! Nevien\u0101 dokument\u0101 j\u016bs neatrad\u012bsit sol\u012bjumu pie\u0161\u0137irt pilson\u012bbu visiem, autom\u0101tiski. Tad jau t\u0101 vairs neb\u016btu atjaunota republika.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Ja toreiz pilson\u012bbu dab\u016btu visi Latvij\u0101 dz\u012bvojo\u0161ie, protams, iz\u0146emot krievu milit\u0101rpersonas, tas b\u016btu apdraud\u0113jums Latvijai?<\/strong><\/p>\n

E. V.: \u2013 Tas b\u016btu milz\u012bgs apdraud\u0113jums. Atcer\u0113simies, kas notika t\u0101 d\u0113v\u0113taj\u0101 valodu referendum\u0101 2012. gad\u0101: t\u016bksto\u0161iem krievvalod\u012bgo, kas LR pilson\u012bbu bija ieguvu\u0161i naturaliz\u0113joties, balsoja par krievu valodu k\u0101 otro valsts valodu. Ja vi\u0146i b\u016btu guvu\u0161i p\u0101rsvaru, t\u0101 b\u016btu katastrofa ne tikai latvie\u0161u valodai, bet ar\u012b Latvijas valstij. Un, paskatoties uz to, kas tagad notiek Ukrain\u0101, var tikai teikt: paldies dievam, ka Latvij\u0101 pilson\u012bbu neieguva visi. Ja b\u016btu ieguvu\u0161i, tad re\u0101l\u0101 aina \u0161odien b\u016btu daudz smag\u0101ka.<\/p>\n

\u2013 1990. gad\u0101 interv\u0113ju vienu no t\u0101 laika LPSR Valsts Dro\u0161\u012bbas komitejas vado\u0161ajiem darbiniekiem. Vi\u0146\u0161 teica: Tautas fronte mud\u017e no m\u016bsu cilv\u0113kiem, no pustrakajiem un l\u0113ttic\u012bgajiem. Ar\u012b m\u016bsdien\u0101s daudzi uzskata, ka Tautas fronte esot bijis PSRS VDK projekts. Cik pamatots ir viedoklis, ka LTF bija \u010dekistu projekts?<\/strong><\/p>\n

E. V.: \u2013 Ja k\u0101dam t\u0101 gribas run\u0101t, tad man j\u0101secina: t\u0101 ir j\u016bsu personisk\u0101 pieredze, ac\u012bmredzot pats esat g\u0101jis \u010dekas pavad\u0101. Mani un laikrakstu Atmoda nevad\u012bja nek\u0101da \u010deka. Pie mums piektdien\u0101s gan n\u0101ca \u0146iprais \u010dekists Jum\u012btis, pa\u0146\u0113ma savus piecus Atmodas eksempl\u0101rus un aizg\u0101ja. Dro\u0161\u012bbas komitejai ta\u010du vajadz\u0113ja zin\u0101t, ko dom\u0101 tauta…<\/p>\n

J. D.: \u2013 Ar\u012b par sevi varu teikt: mani \u010deka nevad\u012bja. J\u0101, toreiz\u0113j\u0101s LPSR VDK priek\u0161nieks Edmunds Johansons pazi\u0146oja, ka LTF esot ar vi\u0146a organiz\u0101ciju saist\u012bti cilv\u0113ki. Pat ja t\u0101, tad \u0161\u012b organiz\u0101cija pamat\u012bgi izg\u0101z\u0101s, jo t\u0101s m\u0113r\u0137is noteikti nebija Latvijas izst\u0101\u0161an\u0101s no PSRS. Redzam, kas \u0161odien notiek Krievij\u0101. Ar\u012b Putins ir biju\u0161ais \u010dekists, un vi\u0146a m\u0113r\u0137is ir imp\u0113rijas atjauno\u0161ana, nevis grau\u0161ana.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Atmodas laik\u0101 tautu sp\u0101rnoja augsti ide\u0101li. \u00abKaut vai pastal\u0101s, bet br\u012bvi\u00bb \u2013 \u0161is teiciens jau ir folkloriz\u0113jies. Toreiz \u0161\u0137ita, ka nekas nesp\u0113s aizkav\u0113t Latvijas k\u0101 labkl\u0101j\u012bbas valsts att\u012bst\u012bbu, bet… P\u0113c p\u0101rdesmit neatkar\u012bbas gadiem cilv\u0113ki masveid\u0101 b\u0113g no Latvijas. Kas tika izdar\u012bts \u0161\u0137\u0113rs\u0101m?<\/strong><\/p>\n

E. V.: \u2013 Manupr\u0101t, t\u0101du lietu ir daudz. Bet galvenais ir tas, ka tie, kuri bija pie varas un varai pietuvin\u0101ti, nesp\u0113ja (vai negrib\u0113ja) formul\u0113t valsts m\u0113r\u0137i. Vai \u0161odien tas ir formul\u0113ts? Ir rad\u012btas kaut k\u0101das programmas par d\u0101rgu naudu, ta\u010du neviena no t\u0101m nav iedz\u012bvojusies realit\u0101t\u0113. Tas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka no sirds nav izdar\u012bts nekas. Nekas! Tie, kuri veikli prata pak\u0101pties uz pleciem j\u016bsm\u012bgajiem, tautfrontiskajiem v\u012bz\u012b\u0161u n\u0113s\u0101t\u0101jiem un dziesmi\u0146u dzied\u0101t\u0101jiem, tagad ir bra\u0161i un bag\u0101ti kungi. Vi\u0146us maz interes\u0113 tie simti t\u016bksto\u0161u, kas aizbrauku\u0161i sve\u0161um\u0101. Un atkal tiek rad\u012btas programmas, kas maks\u0101 miljonus \u2013 lai atgrieztu latvie\u0161us no sve\u0161uma. K\u0101da j\u0113ga no t\u0101m? Tikai tiem, kas sa\u0146em honor\u0101rus par \u0161o bezj\u0113dz\u012bgo pap\u012bru rad\u012b\u0161anu. Toties ir veiksmes st\u0101sts, ko m\u016bsu varturi ciniski izmanto k\u0101 d\u016bmu aizsegu re\u0101li smag\u0101m probl\u0113m\u0101m, kuras pagaid\u0101m negras\u0101s risin\u0101t neviena valdo\u0161\u0101 vai nevaldo\u0161\u0101 partija. Visus interes\u0113 tikai k\u0101rt\u0113j\u0101s v\u0113l\u0113\u0161anas \u2013 Saeimas, pa\u0161vald\u012bbu vai prezidenta.<\/p>\n

J. D.: \u2013 Viens no biju\u0161ajiem m\u016bsu prezidentiem uzdeva sev retorisku jaut\u0101jumu \u2013 kas es esmu… Ar\u012b es v\u0113los jaut\u0101t: kas m\u0113s bij\u0101m\u00a0\u2013 AP LTF frakcijas deput\u0101ti, kuriem n\u0101c\u0101s realiz\u0113t tautsaimniec\u012bbas un \u012bpa\u0161uma reformu? Krit\u0113rijs, atlasot LTF deput\u0101tu kandid\u0101tus, bija \u013coti vienk\u0101r\u0161s \u2013 vai \u0161is cilv\u0113ks nobalsos par neatkar\u012bbas atjauno\u0161anu un vai sabiedr\u012bb\u0101 b\u016bs pietiekams atbalsts, lai vi\u0146u iev\u0113l\u0113tu? Ta\u010du, neskatoties uz krit\u0113riju pietic\u012bbu, LTF frakcija san\u0101ca \u013coti kvalitat\u012bva un darboties sp\u0113j\u012bga. Manupr\u0101t, LTF frakcijas deput\u0101tu darb\u012bbas potenci\u0101ls bija augst\u0101ks nek\u0101 v\u0113l\u0101k saeimu deput\u0101tiem. M\u0113s pa\u0161i izstr\u0101d\u0101j\u0101m likumprojektus. Tagad deput\u0101ti str\u0101d\u0101 ar vald\u012bbas sagatavotiem projektiem. Protams, frakcijai bija ar\u012b v\u0101jas vietas. Piem\u0113ram, nebija izsv\u0113rta reformu pl\u0101na, likumprojekti tika skat\u012bti p\u0113c principa, kur\u0161 gatavs, nevis lo\u0123isk\u0101 sec\u012bb\u0101. Tas skaidrojams ar milz\u012bgo likumprojektu skaitu, kuri \u012bs\u0101 laik\u0101 bija j\u0101pie\u0146em, veidojot demokr\u0101tisku, soci\u0101li atbild\u012bgu valsts iek\u0101rtu. Tika ar\u012b p\u0101rsp\u012bl\u0113ta br\u012bv\u0101 tirgus iesp\u0113ja sak\u0101rtot tautsaimniec\u012bbu. Par globaliz\u0101cijas ietekmi uz mazu valstu ekonomiku nerun\u0101ja visp\u0101r.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Ar ko bija j\u0101s\u0101k, atjaunojot Latvijas tautsaimniec\u012bbu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

J. D.: \u2013 Bija j\u0101mazina valsts regul\u0113jo\u0161\u0101 loma tautsaimniec\u012bb\u0101, \u013caujot att\u012bst\u012bties tirgus ekonomikai; j\u0101nost\u0101da vien\u0101du iesp\u0113ju priek\u0161\u0101 visas \u012bpa\u0161uma formas \u2013 valsts, pa\u0161vald\u012bbu un priv\u0101tais \u012bpa\u0161ums. Valsts tautsaimniec\u012bba nevar efekt\u012bvi att\u012bst\u012bties, ja naudas emisija notiek cit\u0101 valst\u012b un t\u0101 nekontrol\u0113ti pl\u016bst p\u0101ri robe\u017eai. T\u0101p\u0113c steidzami n\u0101c\u0101s atjaunot nacion\u0101lo val\u016btu. Bija j\u0101veido tautsaimniec\u012bbu regul\u0113jo\u0161as instit\u016bcijas un normat\u012bv\u0101 b\u0101ze. Valsts regul\u0113jo\u0161\u0101s lomas mazin\u0101\u0161ana tautsaimniec\u012bb\u0101 un \u012bpa\u0161uma formu da\u017e\u0101do\u0161ana tika veikta privatiz\u0101cijas ce\u013c\u0101, \u012bpa\u0161umu atdodot biju\u0161ajiem \u012bpa\u0161niekiem un paredzot jaunu maks\u0101\u0161anas l\u012bdzekli \u2013 privatiz\u0101cijas sertifik\u0101tus.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Cilv\u0113ki ilgoj\u0101s p\u0113c soci\u0101li taisn\u012bgas valsts, bet piev\u012bl\u0101s un brauca prom. K\u0101p\u0113c Latvij\u0101 neizveidoj\u0101s pla\u0161s vidussl\u0101nis, \u00abkur\u0101 b\u016btu rodams \u0113tikas, inteli\u0123ences un gar\u012bguma balsts\u00bb? <\/strong>(Oj\u0101rs Sp\u0101r\u012btis)<\/p>\n

J. D.: \u2013 Ar nol\u016bku veidot vidus\u0161\u0137iru un iesp\u0113jami taisn\u012bg\u0101k sadal\u012bt padomju laik\u0101 rad\u012bt\u0101s materi\u0101l\u0101s v\u0113rt\u012bbas tika ieviesti privatiz\u0101cijas sertifik\u0101ti. Par sertifik\u0101tiem strikti iest\u0101j\u0101s LTF otr\u0101 vi\u013c\u0146a vad\u012bba, bet pietiekami skeptiski bija virkne ekonomiski dom\u0101jo\u0161u frakcijas deput\u0101tu. Rezult\u0101t\u0101 sertifik\u0101tu piekrit\u0113ji guva virsroku. L\u0113mums tika pie\u0146emts vair\u0101k m\u012b\u013c\u0101 miera labad nek\u0101 aiz p\u0101rliec\u012bbas.<\/p>\n

Praktiskais ieguvums bija iesp\u0113ja privatiz\u0113t padomju laik\u0101 uzceltos dz\u012bvok\u013cus. Piedal\u012bties saimniecisku, ra\u017eojo\u0161u objektu privatiz\u0101cij\u0101, k\u013c\u016bstot vismaz par mazo akcion\u0101ru, parastam sertifik\u0101tu \u012bpa\u0161niekam bija praktiski neiesp\u0113jami. S\u0101k\u0101s masveida sertifik\u0101tu uzpirk\u0161ana par cenu, kas bija \u010detras piecas reizes zem\u0101ka par nomin\u0101lo. Tie, kam bija l\u012bdzek\u013ci, ar vienu latu nopeln\u012bja piecus, bet tie, kuriem bija j\u0101sa\u0146em kaut kas piecu latu v\u0113rt\u012bb\u0101, sa\u0146\u0113ma vienu. Ko var\u0113ja dar\u012bt cit\u0101d\u0101k? Sertifik\u0101ti nedr\u012bkst\u0113ja k\u013c\u016bt par preci. Vispirms tiem bija j\u0101k\u013c\u016bst par \u012bpa\u0161umu vai \u012bpa\u0161uma da\u013cu (dz\u012bvoklis vai akcijas), un tikai tad \u012bpa\u0161ums b\u016btu prece. \u0160is ir tipisks piem\u0113rs, ka br\u012bvais tirgus tom\u0113r visu neatrisina.<\/p>\n

V\u0113l viens iemesls, k\u0101p\u0113c cilv\u0113ki v\u012bl\u0101s: sabiedr\u012bb\u0101 vald\u012bja mald\u012bgs uzskats \u2013 es noteikti neb\u016b\u0161u darba \u0146\u0113m\u0113js, bet gan darba dev\u0113js, vad\u012b\u0161u kaut vai nelielu veikali\u0146u vai darbn\u012bcu. Pasaul\u0113 ir iek\u0101rtots cit\u0101di \u2013 80% ir darba \u0146\u0113m\u0113ju un tikai 20% ir darba dev\u0113ju.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Latvijas sabiedr\u012bba nebija gatava kapit\u0101lismam. J\u0101nis Peters reiz intervij\u0101 teica: \u00abTikko atausa s\u016br\u0101 kapit\u0101lisma ikdiena, s\u0101k\u0101m iztur\u0113ties k\u0101 pirmatn\u0113jo cil\u0161u pieder\u012bgie, kas pirmoreiz ieraudz\u012bju\u0161i spo\u017eas stikla krell\u012btes.\u00bb<\/strong><\/p>\n

E. V.: \u2013 Bet, cit\u0113jot v\u0113l k\u0101du klasi\u0137i, j\u0101atg\u0101dina: jebkur\u0161 sliktais kapit\u0101lisms ir daudz lab\u0101ks par jebkuru labo soci\u0101lismu. Ta\u010du Latvijas sabiedr\u012bba nebija gatava tam, ka vajadz\u0113s str\u0101d\u0101t daudz intens\u012bv\u0101k nek\u0101 att\u012bst\u012btaj\u0101 soci\u0101lism\u0101. T\u0101 nebija gatava tam, ka b\u016bs s\u016bra konkurence, zaud\u0113jumi un netaisn\u012bbas.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Cilv\u0113ki bija neapmierin\u0101ti, k\u0101 notika privatiz\u0101cija. Var\u0113ja to dar\u012bt cit\u0101d\u0101k…<\/strong><\/p>\n

J. D.: \u2013 Noteikti, vismaz caursp\u012bd\u012bg\u0101k. Sevi\u0161\u0137i r\u016bpniec\u012bb\u0101. Bet vai var\u0113ja d\u0101rg\u0101k? Var\u0113ja, bet tad r\u016bpniec\u012bbas pre\u010du tirgu n\u0101ktos izv\u0113l\u0113ties Krievij\u0101 un cit\u0101s biju\u0161aj\u0101s PSRS republik\u0101s, jo Eirop\u0101 \u0161\u012bs preces nebija konkur\u0113tsp\u0113j\u012bgas.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Bij\u0101m p\u0101rliecin\u0101ti, ka Latvijas tautsaimniec\u012bba b\u016bs pa\u0161pietiekama. Kad j\u016bs saprat\u0101t, ka t\u0101 neb\u016bs?<\/strong><\/p>\n

J. D.: \u2013\u00a0Godma\u0146a<\/a> vald\u012bba l\u016bdza ekspertus no Hamburgas ostas izv\u0113rt\u0113t R\u012bgas ostas perspekt\u012bvas kravu aprit\u0113. Atbilde bija: visperspekt\u012bv\u0101k R\u012bgas ostu izmantot k\u0101 buru un motorjahtu novietni. Rietumos neviens konkurentus atplest\u0101m rok\u0101m negaid\u012bja. Te ar\u012b sl\u0113pjas atbilde, k\u0101p\u0113c p\u0113c neatkar\u012bbas atjauno\u0161anas Latvij\u0101 strauji krit\u0101s IKP. 1988. gada l\u012bmeni m\u0113s sasniedz\u0101m aptuveni 10 gadus p\u0113c neatkar\u012bbas deklar\u0101cijas pie\u0146em\u0161anas. Ta\u010du ilgtermi\u0146\u0101 centieni darboties Eiropas tirgos bija pareizs l\u0113mums.<\/p>\n

L\u012bdz nesenai pag\u0101tnei uz tautsaimniec\u012bbas un \u012bpa\u0161uma reformu skat\u012bjos tikai no poz\u012bcij\u0101m, vai tika sasniegts optim\u0101lais ekonomiskais efekts. Tagad, p\u0113c Krievijas agresijas Ukrain\u0101 un Krimas okup\u0101cijas, es dom\u0101ju: k\u0101 b\u016btu, ja Latvija izv\u0113l\u0113tos sadarboties kopuz\u0146\u0113mumos ar Krievijas milit\u0101ri r\u016bpniecisko kompleksu? Diez vai tad Latvija b\u016btu ES un NATO\u00a0dal\u012bbvalsts. Mani \u0161ok\u0113 viedoklis, ka ekonomisko intere\u0161u v\u0101rd\u0101 iesaka paklus\u0113t par Krievijas r\u012bc\u012bbu Ukrain\u0101. Esmu to dzird\u0113jis ar\u012b no latvie\u0161iem. Protams, darba vietas ir vajadz\u012bgas, bet vai t\u0101p\u0113c j\u0101klus\u0113 par noziegumu?<\/p>\n

\u2013 K\u0101 jums \u0161\u0137iet \u2013 \u0161odien ir t\u0101da ideja, kas sp\u0113tu salied\u0113t un sp\u0101rnot tautu k\u0101 toreiz, 90.\u00a0gad\u0101?<\/strong><\/p>\n

J. D.: \u2013 Kaut kur las\u012bju atzi\u0146u, ka katrai paaudzei no jauna ir j\u0101ieg\u016bst sava neatkar\u012bba. Esmu p\u0101rliecin\u0101ts: t\u0101 paaudze, kura \u0161obr\u012bd n\u0101k politik\u0101, to atkal izdar\u012bs.<\/p>\n

E. V.: \u2013 Nav citas idejas, ir tikai ideja par br\u012bv\u012bbu. T\u0101 man\u012b rada vietu cer\u012bb\u0101m un tic\u012bbai, ka viss v\u0113l nav zaud\u0113ts.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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